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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:55 PM
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When Kerry wins, will the pundits say Kerry won it or Bush lost it?
Will they still say the Kerry vote was more against Bush than for Kerry?
What will they say was the biggest reason Bush didn't win?
His poor debate performance?
His unwillingness to admit he made any mistakes?
The bad news out of Iraq?
Underestimated John Kerry?
The bin Laden tape?

What, oh what, excuse will they give?

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:56 PM
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1. It won't matter.
So long as Kerry is inaugurated, it will not matter at all.
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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:56 PM
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2. The world waits and wonders n/t
Professor 2
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:57 PM
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3. They are already saying that Bruce Springsteen is getting
the youth vote for Kerry, so my bet is they will say the weed that would be king lost!
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:57 PM
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4. I don't care, but I think they'll say * lost it in Iraq.
He must have set "it" down by the explosives and it got looted.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:59 PM
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5. who cares
As long as that asshole is no longer the pResident I really won't give a crap how or why it happened.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:59 PM
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6. Who cares?
What matters is the result. Leave the rest to history......
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desertalien Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:00 PM
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7. They never want to give Kerry any credit.
I think they'll say Bush lost it because of new voter registration and people think the country is going in the wrong direction. For sure they will minimize the importance of Kerry. I just don't get why they refuse to give him credit.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:02 PM
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8. I could not care less!
I won't be listening to them at any rate! Haven't watch them up to this point, why should I give them any credence after the fact?
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:05 PM
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9. Problem being is that GWBush never "had it" to lose . . .
psychologically speaking, that is. He's always been a loose cannon w/ next to nothing but hot air between his ears.

But, I assume you mean politically and how the talking-heads will make hay out of it all. Who knows? Who the hell can read what goes on in the head of today's anything-goes-for-the-money-and-ratings talkingheads that pass as "reporters" of "news?"

Somebody such as, say, Tom Oliphant who's bright, objective, and concise would be a good reference point. He'd probably *blame* Bush's downfall on Bush himself and the very way Bush has mishandled his entire presidency and such mishandling being exacerbated by 9-11 and its effects including Bush's self-infliction of Iraq.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:10 PM
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10. I wish they blame
on us at DU. Those commies there at DU...
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:12 PM
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11. Invasion of Iraq
I think that will be seen as the likey cause. If not for that, the conventional wisdom goes, Bush would win the election going away.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:15 PM
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12. They'll blame the liberal media
and, strangely, they won't notice that they make up that media. Oh, the irony!
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PE Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:17 PM
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13. I don't care! If Kerry wins and then does a good job...
..that is all that matters.
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masonfl Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:17 PM
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14. The answer is, of course, both
Some will say Kerry won it. Others will say Bush lost it. Then the people who said Kerry won it will change their minds and Say Bush lost it...and vice versa. Pundits are 99% worthless.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:18 PM
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15. I don't care - but they will spin it
as people were voting against * and not for Kerry. And they'll blame */Rove for blowing it. Kerry will get no credit at all. They'll say he ran a lousy campaign.

And I expect they're already gearing up to smear Kerry/Teresa/Edwards/ etc., for the next 4 years. It will be ugly. The Swifties won't go away either. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to bring him up on treason charges dating back to his Nam testimony and activities.

Stay ready cause we're going to have the fight of our lives on our hands with these bastards.



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chimp chump Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:52 PM
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16. Well...
...conventional wisdom in the political class is that an election involving an incumbent is a referendum on the incumbent. So they'll say that the voters rejected Bush.

You can see much the same thing in how they describe Clinton's defeat of Bush Senior.
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