"God Help Us all if JK gets elected" CSPAN Caller

[Captain Lance Bass]

Kerry will kill all those babies (abortion/stemcell) and GOD will only let so many babies die.....

[kevin881]

1. LOL

[johnnyrocket]

13. Are there any discussion threads on abortion?

Because I am sick to death of the abortion issue...especially since it has nothing to do with abortion, and has everything to do with sex, womens rights, and mind control.

I asked someone point blank "What does pro-life mean? All abortions are illegal? Abortion equates to murder? What about miscarriage? Is that involuntary manslaughter? What?"

No answer. I thought Kerry's answer to abortion was right on, because the practical reality is that abortion is not murder, and everybody knows that.

[IowaGuy]

16. I've always been curious about this concept,,,

how would it inevitably play out both logically and legally if a fetus was to be legally defined as a human being? Would not all rights and protections under the law be applied to them? If so, would it not be necessary to register these humans with the government at the immediate point in time of conception so they could be afforded the full protection of the law? Would a woman, who then,stressed her body through, oh, exercising rigorously, and thus unintionally caused the egg to not implant into her uterine wall a few days later be charged with murder?, manslaughter? willful neglect? How would the "death" of this "human" be atoned for and justice be done?

[LTR]

25. Guess they don't realize that the abortion rate went down under Clinton

As Bill Maher said, if they don't like stem cell research, they should have one of those embryos inserted in them and be forced to carry it to full term.

[Spiffarino]

34. Fact is

...abortion was legal under English Common Law, the very law that our society is based upon.

By law, the fetus was not considered a human being until "quickening" - the time when the baby begins to move in the womb.

Another fact? Abortions go down when the economy is benefiting the largest number of people.

Here's a quote from the article linked at the bottom:

"I don't think it's an accident that the abortion rate went up under Reagan and Bush but went down under Clinton," she says. "We have to integrate parenthood and school or parenthood and work to relieve some of the social and economic pressures that make abortion feel like the only choice."

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0406&article=040610

[Kierkegaard]

2. I guess that only applies to Amerikan babies

not Iraqi babies.

[Triana]

3. I heard that....

...had to shut it off after that. I just ate dinner and would like to keep it down. :puke:

[KingChicken]

4. Yes, its better to let them grow up and send them to war to die!

They are nuts!

[Sparkly]

5. I heard that -- she thinks abortion is the cause of Social Security mess

because the younger people pay for the old, and we're killing the young...

Is there a negative population growth problem in the US I'm not aware of??

[clydefrand]

6. Yes, just like He's letting so many of our military die and

the Iraqis. These people are so damn ignorant. And tonight on Paula Zahn, Bob Graham did a piss poor job of explaining stem cell research. He should have taken a lesson from Elizabeth Edwards. She did a superb job on it.

[drdtroit]

7. Just shows how culpable the media is in this whole mess.

She was under the impression that they kill a fetus to get the stem cells. Oy!

[Gregorian]

23. Yes, BUT it is still the responsibility of the people to cut through it.

I take it one step further. It is the people. And the people have allowed themselves to be duped. If the people didn't have shit for brains, the media would never be able to pull this stuff on them.
But I also think that this is just the beginning. America is young. But what does it take- another holocaust, before people start thinking for themselves?
Ok, I'll step off my soapbox. We're all getting anxious as the hours count down. Yeehaw!

[DrZeeLit]

8. Yeah, I heard somebody say that the other day and I thought....

....hmmmm, what will happen?

Will the economy go in the dumper? (hmm, no, that's already happened)
Will 500K jobs be lost? (hmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will real wages drop? (hmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will he start a war? (hmmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will health care costs skyrocket? (hmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will religious fanatics take over? (hmmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will we lose our civil rights? (hmmmm, no, that's already happened)
Will we be attacked by terrorists? (hmmmm,no, that's already happened)


WHY ARE THEY SO AFRAID?
THE WORST HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!!!!

Kerry On!

[Catt03]

9. the first caller

siad he did not now why there was even a debate about this election.
That George Bush is bringing the world to destruction and appears to like doing it.

[Starlight]

18. Wasn't that a great caller? n/t

[prolesunited]

10. Perhaps someone should point out to her

That the abortion rate went DOWN when Clinton was president and has gone UP every year since Bush has been in office. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that more people feel able to welcome a new life into this world when they have a secure job and health insurance.

[Sara Beverley]

11. Only a freeper would find this worth of repeating.

IMHO

[lizzieforkerry]

17. I'm new...What does IMHO stand for?

[steve2470]

26. in my humble opinion nt

[Captain Lance Bass]

27. who's a freeper?

[L84TEA]

12. last time I looked, our abortion clinic was still open... seems to me

Georgie isn't in any hurry to close them down..
:shrug:

[smbolisnch]

14. um............

:puke:

[Blue_Roses]

15. she sounded so ignorant

:eyes: why did that guy give her so much time?

[Ksec]

19. They better hope God will help them if Kerry wins..

cause Im gonna make life miserable for them. hehe

[Gregorian]

20. That caller actually caused me to think about leaving the country!

The followup caller said what I wanted to say. So that helped.
BUT, I am still quite upset by the quantity of idiots in America. And I think the rest of the world, with the exception of Australia, is comprised of fairly educated people.
I'm glad you posted this thread. That caller had me boiling over.

[kayell]

21. Apparently her Gawd doesn't give a crap about Iraqi babies

[LTR]

22. As far as the wingnuts are concerned...

...you can throw out the brown ones.

[ClevelandSportsCurse]

24. The number of abortions have increased in the last four years

In 2000, abortions hit a 24 year low. There is something to say about a direct between the economy and the number of abortions.

[solarspa]

28. More Abortions Under Bush Admin

Abortions are on the rise under Bush.

In many ways our candidate is illogical. Our candidate defies all logical political wisdom. I think this is a very good sign for the world. John Kerry is a rebel. He is a rebel against politics as usual. He stood his ground for many years. His aim is to represent the common man in this country and also in the world. Even in his youth he stood his ground. Vote for humanity tomorrow….vote for the man who will represent the common men and women in the United States and in the world.

Let’s all wear our harvest gold barn jackets!

[dolstein]

29. If Kerry's elected, we won't need God's help

God's help is only necessary when you have an incompetent recovering alcoholic in the White House.

[chaumont58]

30. You ain't seen nothin' yet! Wait until tomorrow night.

In 1992, on the night that Clinton won the vote, CSPAN was overflowing with crazies. I was stunned at the vitriol heaped on Clinton. Kerry is going to get the same treatment tomorrow night from fundie rage. I wonder if Rev Foulsmell and Roacherson will proclaim God has abandoned 'Merika again?

[Roland99]

31. "Kerry will go to hell" - Jesus Freak caller

That was probably the fucked-up Fund-A-Mental Case bitch that taped a sign to my car today!



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http://www.conjur.com/politics - Why George W. Bush is WRONG for America

[Trahurn]

32. I Just Cannot Believe

Not since, in my opinion anyway, W.W. II has this country faced something so crucial as our pending election. Or should I use Bush's word and say "Imminent?" And this caller is only worried about abortion. She, I assume it is a she, thinks this entire election is about abortion and dead babies. Of course we could debate until the cows come home what constitutes a viable "person" or not but this Bush licker apparently did not say anything about all the babies, women and various other children being and already killed in Iraq thanks to George Bush. Forgot the elderly being bombed as well. Where is the callers outrage for those people? I suppose in the callers demented mind only unviable fetuses are people and people already on this earth with real lives and families in progress that have been obliterated in Iraq are just so much cannon fodder. There is no explaining such bizzare thinking other than to say they are extremely dangerous to normal, thinking people that keep such insantiy in check.

[goodboy]

33. Iraqi's and Afghani's and Sudanese don't count though...(nt)

[pookieblue]

35. Geez...

that sounds like someone I know. She said that she was going to cry if Kerry wins.

These are the same people who believe that the democrats want to ban the Bible.