Howard Stern Reporting VOTES PLANTED ON MACHINES IN PA WERE FOR BUSH!

[Beetwasher]

On right now...

Just finished...They came in with the breaking story and reported (rightly or wrongly I don't know) that they were Bush votes...

[Clinton Crusader]

1. what a shocker! Never occured to me they were planted for JK

here we fucking go...

[Catfight]

2. Of course they were for Bush, he can only look like he is in the running

by cheating, otherwise it'd be such a HUGE gap he'd be totally humiliated that he really is the WORST most HATED president EVER!

[benburch]

3. BASTARDS.

After this election we need to make the Republicans PAY for this.

[wicket]

4. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Well. Surprise, surprise...

[dave502d]

6. Dose that mean FL might have been that way to. n/t

[Roland99]

7. TOO EARLY TO TELL...

let's wait and get confirmation from multiple news sources.

[Wapsie B]

8. If true,

there needs to be a supply of paper ballots at the ready to use in place of these machines.

[Quadrajet]

9. If true, I am going to do a dance right here and now.

developing....

[debatepro]

10. Overcount

this sort of thing should be caught when the compair the number of voters vrs. the number of people who votes. This should be a pretty easy catch.


Edited because i write like shrub speaks

[Wickerman]

18. You are correct

You have to balance your voters with your tally, that SHOULD be caught.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

25. But how is it dealt with when it IS caught?

Exactly how do they figure out who got the overvotes? Do they subtract equally from all candidates? Cause if they do, it would mean that Kerry would have REAL votes deducted, while Bush would have FAKE votes added.

[Wickerman]

40. THAT pinpoints the pxs with E-voting

with paper you simply HAVE to figure it out - its possible. With electronics its not possible as you only have control of what amounts to a total end count.

I don't, frankly, knows what happens, just that they can identify there is a problem. Someone who knows EV should be able to state the remedy, unless, of course, the idea is that EV is infallible, so there IS no remedy. :shrug:

[mermaid]

11. GODDAMN IT!! Why Am I NOT FUCKING SURPRISED?!?!?!

My mom lives in Pennsylvania, and she says she would vote for Bush OVER HER DEAD BODY!!
Maybe she is voting for Bush and doesn't know it...FUCKING LYING CHEATING BASTARDS!!

FUCK DIEBOLD!!

[zls44]

12. RNC saying the opposite

MSNBC saying the RNC is challenging it. So they aren't for *?

[Lex]

16. RNC will be like the keystone cops today, I predict.

They probaby ARE votes for Bush.
RNC probably IS challenging.

[0007]

13. Let's nail these fuckers

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[oscar111]

22. hope this makes Dems flood the polls to balance the planted votes in machi

in machines.

This COULD MAYBE work to our advantage, if it enrages enough dems that we get out and vote in huge numbers.

Re-voting also is obviously in order where any DIEBOLD trash is used. Possibly in two weeks from now, using paper ballots.

[fear the donkey]

14. MSNBC says Repukes are already suing in Philly

awaiting details

[Shopaholic]

17. This is why I was worried last night when I heard the Repugs

spinning how they were going to win--I thought to myself--they've figured out how to steal this one too with those *&^% electronic voting machines. Fuckers.

[formernaderite]

30. The repukes are upset by this....sounds like the votes weren't for them.

eom

[Memekiller]

15. Rove planted the ballots...

They've already tried to plant fake fliers in a Dem HQ, but it backfired - someone who saw them, threw them out. The next day, someone shows up to "discover" the fliers and report them to Drudge, but they were in the trash. So he asked to see one, then went to the media, and Drudge put up a siren. Classic Rove. He's done several instances of planting fliers, making them look like his opponent did it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. After watching "Bush's Brain"

I'd bet money on it. :grr: :mad:

[aden_nak]

19. Howard Stern should be embarrassing to the media in general.

And I don't mean that against Howard. But it's sad enough when people have to turn to a "fake news" show on Comedy Central to get their information. But when they have to turn to a guy that openly admits that his formula used to be Lesbians = Ratings. . . there's something seriously lacking in our national media. Lacking in a way that words fail to capture.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

28. This is a good time to point out that Stern was not always so loved...

by many on the left:

In one of those unintentional alliances that makes everyone involved just a little bit uneasy, Thomas (a longtime progressive social activist), Kuhn (founder of the feminist watchdog group Media Action Alliance), and Prichard (president of the Minnesota Family Council, a conservative "family values" group), each proclaimed victory when AMFM Inc. announced in early August that it would take "The Howard Stern Show " off the air.
http://www.womenspress.com/newspaper/1999/15-12%20articles/15-12steinerstern.html

Now think about that - we may not always agree with what Stern said and did in the past, but we sure as hell like what he's saying now.

There is a lesson in there somewhere...

[aden_nak]

32. Yes, that tolerance does not have to be acceptance.

[MallRat]

20. FUCK YOU, DRUDGE!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! THANKS FOR BLOWING THE WHISTLE ON THE GOP, DRUDGE!!!!

-MR

[Fluffdaddy]

21. Damn GOP Bitches

[atommom]

23. I only hope we can nail them in time to save the election!

:mad:

[oscar111]

24. Planted for KERRY not bush? re: saying RNC filing challenge, suggests that

so, perhaps Diebold planted votes for Kerry, to make us look bad, and made sure they were discovered early.

Just be ready for this wrinkle if it develops.

I'm just trying to see why on earth the RNC would go to court on this one.

Reminds me of Hitler starting the Reichstag fire, and blaming local LW types.

Is Stern sure the votes were for Bush? If so, why is the RNC filing suit?

[Borgnine]

26. Bababooey bababooey bababooey!

Here's the deal, folks. WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS THING, but only if the vote is fair.

Keep your fingers crossed, and to our amputee friends, whatever appendages you can muster..

[Confident]

27. Let's hope - but that makes no sense...

2,000 Bush votes weren't going to swing Philly to Bush, and RNC wouldn't be the ones rushing to court if they were guilty.

IMHO Reps are running a different game - trying to use planted votes as excuse to throw out LOTS of Philly votes for Kerry and thus throw state to Bush

[Clinton Crusader]

29. On FAUX NOW - votes were planted for KERRY

[Killarney]

31. Fox reported that the votes planted were for Kerry?

[HFishbine]

33. No, they didn't

ACtually what Fox just reported (I was listening very closely) was that there were NO votes planted. Someone observed the total number of votes cast on a machine over its lifetime and mistakenly assumed those were votes cast before the polls opened. Apparently, they were not -- at least on that machine.

[Clinton Crusader]

34. Could be, but they are saying the KE Campaign and the DNC are

denying it. So they MUST have been Kerry votes. Just repeating what she told me, I didnt see it.

[RedEagle]

35. What types of machines?

Touchscreen?

How did they discover this, printing a totals tape (which should be zero) before voting?

If these machines are touchscreen, are they connected to the Internet in any way?

Regardless of who the votes were for, this is wrong. The question is, was the discovery made pre-voting, during the zero totals check?

Please report to any of a number of organizations:

www.blackboxvoting.org

www.votersunite.org

www.verifiedvoting.org

[AnnInLa]

37. not what MSNBC is reporting

said repug lawyers going to court immediately, so can't be repug votes in those machines.

[wicket]

38. kick

:kick:

[pimpbot]

39. votes not planted - Counter counts LIFETIME votes on machine

So far this is the only SANE explanation of what happened. So far no hard core proof.