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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:01 PM
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Zogby - "Watch PA, VA, CO, Florida for surprises"
www.zogby.com

Look at his electoral map, and the scrolling text below it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:03 PM
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1. They're giving Florida to Bush. This is NOT a big surprise.
Votes don't count in Florida.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:05 PM
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3. You mean Crawford East? Or is it Kennebunkport South? n/t
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:04 PM
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2. Last night he had Florida being the tie breaker...
...he changed the data but not the date/time of the poll.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:06 PM
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4. Ohio is winnable!!!
:wtf: is Zogby talking about???

Ohio is winnable, more so than Florida (Jeb)!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:08 PM
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5. If CO goes, I'd be more than surprised. And extremely happy.
But I just can't see it happening.

I'm just hoping Salazar can beat Coors. Even that would be a major victory.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:10 PM
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6. Hate to break it to Zogby
but I'm here in PA. Kerry will win and it won't be close.
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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:10 PM
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7. The big problem here is that Zogby is insinuating that PA might go for *
Kerry can NOT lose PA.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:14 PM
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12. Zogby's on crack on that one
believe me
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:30 PM
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17. He must be figuring on all the K/E votes being tossed out
It's the only explanation...
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:30 PM
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29. No it isn't.... the "surprise" will be a huge Kerry margin.....
It was supposed to be close. and there is some evidence of that landslide happening.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:11 PM
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8. What does "Big" suprise mean?
A BIG suprise is not Florida going for Bush, but VA going for Kerry. It's hard to tell what Zogby is saying in that text.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:12 PM
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9. His state predictions SUCK. Ignore them.
He's okay, but no great shakes, nationally.

He had California as a tie in 2000. Oops.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:13 PM
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10. Even though we feel confident these states will go for Kerry
if you read the MSM, many of these would be surprises because they've practically already been calling FL, OH, and PA for Bush*.

In other words, the "surprise" won't be on us -- it will be on THEM! :bounce:
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chappaquadem Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:13 PM
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11. Penn
Perhaps he's saying that it won't be close in PA?
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:31 PM
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30. right..... big Kerry win
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:14 PM
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13. Zogby is trying to remain vital. He knows with the web and with cell phone
users he doesn't have a clue as to who is going to win.
Oooo, boogada boogada!! surprises woooo surprises!!!
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:15 PM
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14. we will not lose fl and OH
he is on crack
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:43 PM
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EagleEye Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:27 PM
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15. If his EV Prediction is FL to Bush then the surprise
would be it going to Kerry.
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The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:29 PM
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16. Is this based on exit polling?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:32 PM
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19. Somebody said it's phone polling
Which means it's probably worth what you paid for the information.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:31 PM
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18. So does that mean PA is going Bush?
and VA to Kerry?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:32 PM
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20. IF bush wins oh and pa
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 01:32 PM by newsguyatl
kerry will HAVE to take wi, fl, va and co or he'll lose.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:44 PM
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22. IF bush wins oh and pa
it will mean they stole the election again
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:52 PM
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23. I don't believe it.
There are a number of states "redder" than PA and "bluer" than VA. If PA and VA were tied, I would expect most of those states to be tied as well. Kerry is not going to lose or barely win PA *and* win CO. Bush is not going to lose VA *and* win both OH and FL (without cheating).
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:09 PM
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27. I Agree With You...
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 02:30 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Zogby is pulling numbers out of his ass...

The Dems haven't carried Virginia since 1964....


Correct me if I'm wrong .... I think I'm close....


I also think Virginia was the only southern state that went for Ford in 76....


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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:52 PM
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24. Son of a ...
So what, he's implying they're tied and the surprise is that Pa. goes Bush and Va. goes Kerry? Or that all of those calls may still switch? Very confused ... and discouraged.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:55 PM
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25. Cut this crap out already
There's still at least six hours to vote in Pennsylvania and yet Zogby is already calling the state based on some mysterious information he's received? Puh-leez... :eyes:
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:58 PM
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26. thanks, bush_has_to_go
I needed that. I've been so confident for two days, then I saw this stupid zogby thing and let it get to me. Deep breaths. Landslide.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:29 PM
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28. She said "Gomer that's not my belly button"
Can someone please direct me to the Nervous Nelly Forum, I made all the correct right turns and I appear to be going left :silly:
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