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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 04:53 PM
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Dean leads Sharpton among African-Americans in SC 27-16 (poll)
South Carolina has an important primary coming up in about two weeks. The African-American vote is going to be vital. It accounts to up to 50% of the turnout in the Democratic primary. Currently according to Survey USA Dean has an overall 25-23 percent lead over Clark with Edwards a strong third at 17% followed by Sharpton with 12%

Because it is often argued by supporters of other candidates that Dean has little support in the minority community I thought it interesting to note how the African-American vote is being divided in South Carolina, according to this poll.

Dean actually leads Sharpton in SC by 27-16 percent with Wes Clark actually coming in second with 21%. Carol Mosley Braun who has now endorsed Dean had 9% of the African-American vote in SC for fourth place among this voting bloc. Will Braun be able to convince her supporters to come to Dean?
http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/SC040114dempresprimary.pdf


How about some other states?

Illinois has a significant African-American and Latino population. A SUSA poll was done of Illinois prior to Mosley-Braun leaving the race and released last week. Among African-Americans in Illinois Mosley-Braun led with 36%, but Dean was a clear second with 19% followed by Sharpton with 12%, Gep with 10%, and Clark at 5% of the African-American vote.

Among Latinos in Illinois, Dean leads with 35% and his nearest challenger among this bloc is Mosley Braun with 14% and Gep and Clark tied at 12%.
http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_elections/IL040115dempresprimary.pdf

Tennessee is another state with a significant African-American population which SUSA polled recently. Dean and Clark are in a dead-heat with 27% for Dean and 26% for Clark. But Dean leads Clark among African-Americans by a solid 30-17 percent.
http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/TN040108demprimary.pdf

Finally, DC is 60% African-American and Dean won the primary, yes he won with a strong white vote, but he also got almost a third of the African-American vote overall--a very solid showing in a strongly minority community with two strong minority opponents he was running against.

It befuddles me why we get all the threads about Dean not doing well with African-Americans when in fact, the polls show him to be running best with this group in several states or the top choice of African-Americans among the caucacion candidates.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:19 PM
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1. This is good to read! I know our campaign is
targeted at all 50 States!


And I've lived in quite a few of them from Hawaii to New York and California to Florida and points in between!
:P
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:22 PM
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2. First link is bad n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:52 PM
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10. go to the susa website
and stroll down to South Carolina primary and click on it. Will bring up all the stats.

http://www.surveyusa.com/
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:23 PM
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3. Good to know.
I wish the media would make this more public, it seems all their concerned about is how Dean is not doing well with minorities.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:24 PM
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4. Your link is bad. Please repair it or find another link to info.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:28 PM
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5. When it gets down to a week before the vote in all of these states...
...we'll probably see something similar to IA happening: Dean down, and Edwards up.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:28 PM
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6. thanks I book marked this
Good information!! Now we know that particular spin, that Dean is not doing well with minorities is nonsense too.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:38 PM
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8. Dean is doing so well with minorities that they would rather vote for just
Edited on Sat Jan-17-04 05:41 PM by beaconess
about ANY black person instead of him. Yep, Dean is really popular with black voters - as long as he's the only major white candidate in the race and as long as no black candidates are competing with him.

The DC primary should have been a wakeup call. It's really a shame that you don't realize it.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:47 PM
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9. So, if he does better than every other candidate, but isn't good enough
for you, what is your solution?
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:53 PM
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11. If he does better than every other candidate, that would be great
but so far, I haven't seen any proof that he is doing better than any other candidate, except Al Sharpton, Carol Moseley Braun and Dennis Kucinich.

So far, in all of his political career, Howard Dean has presented himself to voters one time. And he made a poor showing. On the other hand, each of the other candidates, except Clark, have done well with black voters in previous elections.

Yes, he could do better in the future, but I don't think he will unless he changes his approach to reaching out to minorities. His current method, in my view, isn't working and won't work.

And I think it's a case of whistling past the graveyard, or just plain ignorance, that is leading some folks here to try to insist that Dean is doing so well with blacks. He's not. And, I suspect that when he has some real competition, that will become more and more apparent.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:54 PM
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12. and how is your candidate doing with them
according to the polls? If Dean is weak then the other white candidates are weaker.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:34 PM
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7. No supprise
Some americams understand we are in this togeather. Dean understands it more then most and explains why. Good news for Democrats.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 06:00 PM
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13. He must have paid somebody?!
:P
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 06:26 PM
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14. Good stuff
Glad to see this hope it puts some of the garbage we have been seeing here to rest.
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