If Only the South Had Supported Bush...

[QC]

we would be celebrating John Kerry's smashing 372-166 victory in the Electoral College right now. Laura would be canceling that gold crown order and George would be down at the UHaul store buying boxes and bubble wrap.

Unfortunately, none of this will happen, because we lost in large chunks of the country. One can travel from Canada to Mexico, and from the Atlantic Ocean to the Sierra Nevada, without passing through a single Democratic state. We even lost Iowa and barely managed to hold on to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota.

Pretending that the South singlehandedly put Bush back in the White House serves no purpose but to alienate the Southern liberals who hang out here and to divert attention from very real problems that we must get a handle on if we are not going to lose and lose and lose.

So let's give the scapegoating a rest, shall we? There's no need to do Rove's work for him.

[QC]

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[QC]

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[Bush was AWOL]

3. I agree

Bashing the south and souterners will do little if anything to solve our EV crisis.

We need to try and understand these voters and do something to reach out to them.

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. As Barak Obama said, more or less,

there are gays in the red states, and there are people terrified of terror in the blue states -- in most states, there is barely a 10% difference between the red and the blue.

The republicans exploit our differences and magnify our antagonisms to energise their base. They exemplify the dark side of Edwards' Two Americas.

Obama emphasises the one America we have been and can yet be.

We have to find our vision, and that seems to be a good place to start.

Just keep his ass off of small airplanes.

[sonicx]

5. who has a problem with Southern liberals?

i don't. the problem is there aren't enough.

we need to clone.

[usrbs]

8. It's not the South, It's the Fundamentalists all over the country.

And I reject everything they stand for, and always will. I've seen Jewish Fundamentalists, Muslim and Christian ones. They are the same. The Xtian ones would act like the Muslims in a heartbeat if they had enough power.So no compromise. Didn't we already have the Reformation centuries ago?

[southlandshari]

10. kick n/t

[gratefull4u]

6. There is much hope in the South

Well in some places. I live in a very conservative area of North Carolina. We managed to elect a openly gay woman to our house in Raleigh. It is how the message is presented, I've learned this through calling the right wing radio stations. I call and say "I sure don't want any government telling me what to do" You can apply this to school prayer, gay marriage, whatever. If you make it as if "they" the government, are trying to interfere with their personal life then they are with you. You have to say in a "huffy tone also" I usually get a lot of callers agreeing with me on whatever subject I need it for at the time. I think we just have to learn how to talk to them about our message.

[Tweed]

7. If you are talking about the people saying we need to target evangelicals

There are evangelicals all over the country. They are HUGE in Kansas. Pretty much every state that voted for Bush has large evangelical congregations.

[southlandshari]

9. kick

thanks!

[QC]

11. You're welcome! n/t