This is my acrimony. I'm a little upset about the gay marriage issue

[jdj]

I am gay. ( I can feel the flames a'comin. ) But I felt from the beginning that gay marriage as an issue should not have been pushed while we are at war. I feel like this was a mistake. I can't remember the sequence of events, whether we were baited, just like they baited Kerry with the assassination plot/VVAW story to get him talking about Vietnam. It's obvious they wanted gay marriage as an issue, and I would have been in it lock, stock and barrel had Bush not gone into Iraq.

But I just could not focus on it with this hideous racist war going on.

There I said it. Thanks admins for this fast flying spew forum.

[Cocoa]

1. I think the court decisions were counterproductive

I think gay marriage is inevitable, we're going to look back on this controversy as being ridiculous, just like the way we see bans on interracial marriage.

But the court decisions didn't move us forward, imo. In fact, they set us back, and gave the hatemongers a killer issue.

[jdj]

2. it was the soldiers dying every day I could not get past.

the bombing starting in March, and all the people dying, again, when we should know better, when there is no fucking excuse.

I couldn't feel "white wedding" romantic, with all that going on. Right issue, wrong timing.

the repukes are equally culpable, because they proved they don't give a damn about the soldiers either, or the iraqi civilians, their main indignance is for buggery.

[Piperay]

3. Repukes pushed that

as a wedge issue, it is very sad that they have to use hate to inflame their supporters.

[ulysses]

8. right.

The left didn't push it, the right did. And we weren't ready.

[erniesam]

4. this moral outrage bullshit has been building for decades

the issue of gay marriage is not what cost us this election. Don't forget how exercised republicans got about blow jobs in the oval office.

[jdj]

5. I know it's not,

but I don't think it was the right time.

Diebold cost us this election.

And it's not moral outrage, it's political strategy.

[sffreeways]

6. Republicans

made this an issue. Gays were not forcing the issue. The marriage/civil union issue is taking it's natural course. Civil rights have a way of doing that. The republicans made America feel as though when they woke up on Nov.3rd they wouldn't be allowed to marry anyone of the opposite sex if Kerry won.

[wickerwoman]

7. I'm not clear on what WE did to push the issue though.

Kerry answered some questions- what was the alternative?

The repubs were going to make some stupid non-issue an issue to inflame their mouth-breathing intolerant base.

At least this way some committed loving couples got some time in the sun.

[sandnsea]

9. 2 things,

First, they made it an issue for the most part. First in the SOTU with the gay marriage amendment, then by putting it on the ballot in every swing state.

Second, if it wasn't bashing gays it would be bashing something else. That's what they do.

[jdj]

11. Gavin Newsom did.

I'm starting to wonder if he is a troll. I mean he's straight, so what was his urgency?

[BeFree]

10. Thanks. You're correct

It was bad timing, that's all. But of course, the pukes used it to their advantage. Probably got 'em three or four points.

Ya know, as someone who used to fear Gays, I can see the side of America that still fears ya'll. Just don't take it personal, would be my advice.

If ya want to get shared bennies and all that; form a corporation, that's the American way for unholy alliances. <grin>