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Wed Nov-03-04 08:49 PM
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Religion is the core problem. The reason takes 2 sentences: |
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Anybody who believes in God already believes the biggest lie of all. A person who believes in the biggest lie of all is likely to believe in all the little ones.
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Wed Nov-03-04 08:55 PM
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What the hell was that election about.. moral values? I thought we voted for president, not coked-out born again preacher. I guess getting attacked by Osama bin Laden, and then retaliating by invading Iraq is what Jesus would've done. Hell, if I were N Korea I would attack us now, because you know the retard would respond by invading France. For chrissakes, how can you vote for Bush??! If Bush were running against CHUCKY from Child's Play, I would vote for Chucky in a second and not even think about it! It was disapointing to turn on CNN and hear John Kerry talking about all this healing and unity crap. It is a little too soon for that. Now is not the time for healing and unity. Now is the time to be pissed off!! Howard Dean at least would've gotten losing right. BAH
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:00 PM
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3. There ya go again, damned Dem ..... |
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........ using fact and logic.
Why do you hate America?
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Wed Nov-03-04 08:59 PM
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2. Religion and god are the diseases... |
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if you got rid of the two, people would be forced to recognize their material reality.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:01 PM
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4. Didn't you already get a thread locked? |
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Are you following guidelines given to you by the moderators after that thread got locked?
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:06 PM
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6. I don't know. I didn't notice if so. Sorry. |
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Are we not allowed to talk about core problems?
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:09 PM
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10. You're not allowed to post anti-religion posts. |
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Because we already know that's not the core problem and just divides us. Do not post racist, sexist, homophobic, ethnic, anti-religious, or anti-atheist bigotry. Unambiguous expressions of bigotry will be deleted, and will often result in the immediate banning of the individual responsible.http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:19 PM
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You're right that it divides us. Take a look at the red states vs. blue states. By the way, I'm not sorry if I offend anyone because I'm right about this. I will not apologize for truth. I will state it again: every religion is a big lie.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:42 PM
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Religion is the core problem. Face it.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:03 PM
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I believe in God, but I don't beleive in Bush's God. Just becuase I belive in a God doesn't mean I believe in the biggest lie, it means I have faith. Faith isn't the problem, Religon is the problem (there is a difference).
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:06 PM
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7. Faith is something that isn't real is a problem. |
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The only answer is loyalty to truth.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:08 PM
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8. "The only answer is loyalty to truth" |
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Who's truth? Ahh, there's the rub!
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:15 PM
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14. Observable truth. Take evolution for example. |
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I'm not interested in this sort of debate. I know the way your mind works...all filled up with the wrong questions and, therefore, the wrong answers.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:31 PM
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20. I could answer that anyone who thinks there is any absolute truth is |
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just another kind of fundamentalist.
But instead I'll say that we need both of our kind to make the revolution happen. So you do your work, I'll do mine, and when our aims coincide, we work in coalition. Nobody's going to change the world thinking only one way because the world tends towards chaos and diversity.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 PM
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Absolute truth?
Thats a fundamentalist's viewpoint.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:19 PM
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I do believe in God but not in Bush's God for sure.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:41 PM
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is in you or outside of you?
People only need religous leaders when they put god outside of themselves and that is the core of the problem we are facing today.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 PM
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31. I would even suggest that religion is not the problem |
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Religion is simply a means by which we attempt to excercise faith in a communal environment.
Fundamentalism is the problem - the concept that those who do not believe as I do, or as we do, are evil/fallen/sinful/etc...
Ther's nothing wrong in shared faith, but even a solitary believer can be a bigot.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:17 PM
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15. Calling a spade a spade like I did... |
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is a lot different from your ridiculous charachiture. I've advocated no action, just offered up an idea to be contemplated.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:28 PM
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19. There's fewer of us than there are of them. |
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Back to Mom's basement with you.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:10 PM
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11. It begins with the ultimate question "Why Are We Here?" |
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Then someone comes up with a theory, and convinces others. At that point, it becomes a religion and it's all downhill from there.
In other words, if you get a smart idea about God, please keep it to yourself. Thank you very much.
DISCLAIMER: Drunk on Belgian ale.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:10 PM
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12. The far right started in politics at the grass roots level |
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overtaking school boards and city councils. That is how the Christian Coalition sparked the Republican Revolution. We know how it is done. We need to work on reaching out to them at the entry level, not telling them they are wrong, we're right and here's how. We may never convert them all, but the cultural divide is widening. And the Republican's using morality has reached peoples hearts and minds. We must work to reverse nearly two decades of poisonous lies. Our fight is an uphill battle, but it can be done if we start at the ground level. Go into our churches, synagogues, mosques, and other houses of worship. Listen. Plan. Act accordingly. We must find quality candidates to run at local levels of government, so we have quality candidates in the wings for higher up the ladder.
None of this is new, but our work has just begun.:dem:
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:11 PM
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over there behind that rock
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:26 PM
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18. I believe in the intelligent approach to G-d |
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Not in the lies organized religion feeds you through the pulpit. If anyone thinks they "own" G-d, that they can describe Him in measurable terms and "chain" Him to their religion, they have a big surprise coming. Especially the evangelicals.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:32 PM
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22. Anybody who thinks God is a "Him" is going to have a big surprisecoming. |
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:32 PM
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Posting anti-religion statements at DU. THAT's a good way to win the country back...
Why don't you kick some puppies too, America just LOVES that...
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:41 PM
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are smarter,cuter, and have no interest in turning our government into a dogacracy. I'll stick to kicking superstitious zealots.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 PM
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23. Fundamentalsim is a problem |
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not THE problem, and Fundies are not equal to the Religious.
BTW - Your heavily biased attitude about religion puts you squarely in the minority. Not a great place to be politically. Try some tact.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:39 PM
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25. God is dead, but unfortunately Shrub still lives... |
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Apparently, Friedrich Nietzsche never considered the power of the God-fearing dumbass...
JB
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:43 PM
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29. man, it just keeps getting deeper in here... n/t |
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:45 PM
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30. Considering that 86% of the population belives in God... |
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That's quite a few who do who didn't buy the Bushit.
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we do not take an anti-religion position on DU
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