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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:09 PM
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whether you believe the "election" was fraudulent or not
if we don't get the electronic cheat machines out of play NOW, we will never win another election. It will gradually get worse and worse and worse
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:11 PM
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1. We have a winner!
:hi:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:23 PM
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3. we have to fight this--and we can win
this is a purely local issue around the country.

Counties, Townships and even smaller jurisdictions usually control what voting process is put in place.

We don't have to fight repukes in the Senate or the House or the Judiciary.

You can do this right in your own back yard.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:13 PM
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2. AND corrupt election boards with their supression and intimidation
fuck em
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:24 PM
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5. don't just fuck 'em---change 'em
start tomorrow. find out if there is a fair voting advocacy group in your community or your state. work to get the repuke cheat macchines thrown out and replaced with paper ballots or systems with a paper audit trail of each vote.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:23 PM
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4. yes, this is THE issue.
I want to hope against hope that the dems are somewhere in a huddle drawing up a game plan to get VVPB into play.

If they are not they aren't worth a shit.
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Aussie_expat Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:30 PM
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6. Oh yeah... That's it ....
While you are focusing on the "cheat machines" Rove will be happy to kick our asses again....in 2008

Face the facts......
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:33 PM
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7. I'm not saying don't fix other things
starting with a total restructuring and refocusing of the party. I've posted at least thirty or forty times about that today.

But as long as vote fraud is not documentable via a paper trail, there will be an ever escalating motivation for fraud. It is well documented that Repukes engage in vote fraud systematically. We will be screwed as long as these machines are in place.

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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:34 PM
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8. Yep. Absolutely agree. nt
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Canuckelhead Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:41 PM
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9. What is the best way?
But what is the best method?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:54 PM
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10. find out if there is already a fair voting coalition in your location
if so, join their efforts

if not, try to form one. contact Bev Harris for more info

or help Bev and her effort.
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