Might the Republican Party actually break down from within???

[SmileyBoy]

I was talking with my father on the phone tonight, and he said that because of the * election (notice I say "election", and not "re-election") he really expects to see a rapidly-growing disollusionment among moderates/old school/fiscal/paleoconservatives, and that they might eventually split away from the Republican Party, and as a result, the Christians/fundies will form a 3rd party. While we were talking on the phone, a political analyst on Larry King was talking about this VERY EXACT SAME THING. He said (in my paraphrasing) that the moderates/old schoolers have kept their mouths shut this whole time, but they now want a slice of the Republican pie that the neocons/fundies have taken all for themselves, and if this doesn't happen, then there will be a great division in the Republican Party.

I was telling my father that I really don't think this could happen, that this party seems to be an unstoppable political and cultural force, and that they seem to be more cohesive and united than ever. But he told me, "Just you wait."

Could the very thing that would completely bring the bastards down actually be themselves???

[MassLiberal]

1. well, that would be nice n/t

[SmileyBoy]

2. Mods, you can move this to the other GD if you want.

[liberalpragmatist]

3. Empires always look strongest right before they fall

Remember that.

Of course, that could ultimately be the fate of the United States as a whole right now.

But I suppose a better political example would be the Democrats in '64. At the time, people thought that it ensured a new, enduring Democratic majority and long-term irrelevance for the Republicans.

In 1968 Nixon won election. Four years later, he wont 49 states. Over the next twenty years, the south became solidly Republican and between 1968 and 1988, the Republicans won 5 out of 6 presidential elections, 4 of them in landslides.

The British Conservative party unexpectedly won reelection in 1992 - like this year, it had been a disastrous term for the tories and it looked like Labor was gonna win (just as it really looked like we would win this year). They narrowly won, but it was a pyrrhic victory. The party was totally ripped apart internally the next five years, and in 1997 Blair swept to power in a massive landslide. The Tories have still never recovered.

[pabloseb]

12. The US doesn't look strong right now

The military is exhausted in an unwinnable invasion in Iraq, the debt has weakened the currency and the future of the economy, many other countries are catching up in terms of science of technology.

The american empire has already began its fall, but it'll be a long process.

[SmileyBoy]

4. Kick

:kick:

[Exultant Democracy]

5. I think we should all go and register republican

just swell the partys numbers and fuck them from the inside. If we start showing up to all the events waving bush signs and dressed in drag the fundies will split off in no time.

[Canuckelhead]

6. On the flip side...

Couldn't the more progressive/ left leaning folks look to branch off from the Democratic party because it is slowly moving more to the right?

I think the effects would cancel each other out.

[SmileyBoy]

8. I absolutely LOVE that map. Did you make it???

:thumbsup:

[Canuckelhead]

9. No.. found it...

I thought it was hillarious, sad thing is, I'd love to see it happen!

[SmileyBoy]

10. Hell, I could just move back to Minneapolis, then!!!

:)

[smirkymonkey]

13. Great graphic.

And not a bad idea!

[tedoll78]

7. I'm hoping..

that Arlen Specter will make good on his threat to the Chimp about judicial appoinments. I might actually call his office and offer encouragement and praise if he does so.

Then again, I'm probably being gullible.

[UpsideDownFlag]

11. id be more worried about the dems, nt