The Democratic Party will NOT be going MORE to the right

[Tweed]

Look, Gore lost, Kerry lost and we lost conservative Senators in southern conservative states. It's clear what we are doing has to be improved. Going more to the right ain't going to do it.

The biggest reason why we lost is evangelicals. The way to get some of their votes is to talk more about how we are going to help out the lower classes which they tend to be in living in rural areas that don't have massive economies. Yes, the ones who believe that abortion and gay marriage trump all will not vote for us. The ones who attend church but aren't so strong on those ideas will pick up on a candidate who believes in raising the minimum wage and making it easier for families to get by. We have to say we are going to help the lower classes in society. Here's where John Kerry failed on this.

It didn't help that his wife has tons of money and I heard snide comments about Kerry being a champion for the poor while being so wealthy. I think the most important part is that Kerry would say vague things like, "We are going to help the middle class and the people who aren't as well off". I guess those words are taboo now. :eyes: Those two factors worked against him IMO. We need populist candidates who promises to work for the little guy and stretches that out. Meat and potato issues are crucial.

Get candidates to talk about the words of Jesus. I don't care if you are an atheist, you have to realize that Jesus had good things to say. Jesus was liberal as hell. Quote passages that talk about how Jesus wanted us to help the poor and avoid war. Challenge Republicans, point out that you are more of a Christian because you quote from the New Testament (the words of Jesus) instead of the Old Testament. Turn their religion on their head. Jesus talked about social justice and peace, not war and social Darwinism. Fundamentalists used to be huge Democrats because of Darwinism actually. William Jennings Byran, prosecutor in the Scopes Monkey trial, four time Presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket or Socialist ticket. He augured against Darwinism because of social Darwinism and the belief that man has to claw to survive.

For those of you who think I'm fucking crazy, this forum is called fighting and acrimony for a reason, flame the hell out of me. But heed this, Karl Rove's strategy of attacking your opponent on their best strength works. We lost, he won. Let's counter attack by getting their strongest base. We won't get them all and some of you may be saying "We don't need any evangelical votes", but we need all the votes we can get and if they are voting for us because our party is following the words of Jesus (as they were meant to be displayed) and championing the poor, they aren't the evangelicals we know today.

[DaveinMD]

1. see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1312777&mesg_id=1312777

[Canuckelhead]

2. hmm

The inability to capture the youth vote is what cost the party, in order to do that the party must move back to the left.

[Tweed]

3. When has the young vote ever delivered an election?

Let's rely on new voters while we are at it! Yeah, that's the ticket! :eyes:

[Canuckelhead]

4. Well the older generation is moving more and more

towards teh republicans, so someone certainly better figure out how to mobilize them.

[Tweed]

10. I repeat

When has the younger generation ever gave us an election?

[RBHam]

5. How come Alberta ain't part of Jesusland?

Trust me, it's coming...

Redo the map that way and send it to every Canadian you know.

Much chuckles to be had...

[Canuckelhead]

6. Nah,

There is a huge difference between Alberta conservative and Alabama conservative.

[LiberteToujours]

7. Hey!

Albertans hate Bush as much as anyone. We might be the Texas of Canada, but when you adjust the liberalism scale of Canada relative to the USA, we're like, I dunno, Vermont. :P

[DjTj]

8. How about a self-made man from a small town whose father worked in a ...

...mill?

A man that today said:

This campaign may end today. But the battle for you and the hark-working Americans who built this country rages on.

The battle rages for the factory worker and the mill worker who says, "I want to work. I just want a job."

The battle rages on for the mother who sits in the emergency room with her daughter and wonders how she is going to pay the bill.

The battle rages on for the young person who's worked hard and wants to go to collect but doesn't have the money to pay for it.

It goes on for the young child who doesn't understand why they are treated differently just because of the color of their skin.

And it rages on for the mother who wants to know why her son was sent over there and will not come home.

This fight will continue in our homes and in our union halls, in our churches, and in our schools, in our offices and over the Internet.

We will keep marching toward that one America and we're not going to stop until we get there.

[Tweed]

9. GREAT message, wrong messenger

John Edwards has been battered by the Republicans and now has the mark of a loser. We need more speeches like this though.