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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:45 AM
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We have been Diebolded people and this is how
saw this on another forum

Diebold used the old underhanded ATM trick.....Negative vote count aka negative numbers when doing a withdrawl.....So easy to do, it actually reverses the percentages immediately, making it seem like no fraud could happen!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:01 AM
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1. Care to explain to this sleep-deprived poster?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:09 AM
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3. Look at the numbers
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:29 AM
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13. Two things seem to reveal themselves.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:30 AM by Milo_Bloom
First, There are some strange results with DIEbold machines...

but also there are some REALLY REALLY strange things going on in Op-Scanner areas as well.

Someone's post in another thread (PHISH'S, I believe) really got me thinking. He/she (sorry I don't know) said that the reason GOP votes were up is because they were being sent in from Texas and Georgia and other neighboring states.

Think how easy that scam would be. Let's say the dems wanted to organize and win Florida. You find a way to reach a LARGE number of voters in NY and CAL and convince 400,000 from each state to participate. 200,000 people from each state go to Ohio and or Florida and "move in" with a participating resident. They register to vote while they are there and go back home.

Around election time they come out for a week, vote in their "new state" and then go home. It would reduce the margin of victory in the "safe" state, but guarantee victory in the swing state because of the large influx of voters.

Getting people would be easy, especially if you use a pre-existing interested network, such as a Church.

For me this also explains why the GOP was so interested in getting challengers into polling places to challenge new voters. This didn't make that much sense to me, since it is easy for most people to prove their address and all they are doing is wasting time. HOWEVER, when you are pulling a scam like this, you are much more likely to do paranoid things like want challengers to check ID's.
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:39 AM
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15. Republicans cheating by having thousands to move to vote?
>>Around election time they come out for a week, vote in their "new state" and then go home. It would reduce the margin of victory in the "safe" state, but guarantee victory in the swing state because of the large influx of voters.<<

More Investigation should be done on this!!!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:34 PM
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61. Bits vs. bytes
Moving 400,000 votes from one e-voting machine to another would be a lot easier than moving 400,000 people.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:15 AM
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65. Yes and no.
Moving the VOTES becomes a lot more obvious than having warm bodies actually present to cast the votes.

It's all about spreading it around. 1% here, 1% there and then next thing you know, you are on a Man Date!
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:07 AM
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2. I do believe we have been Diebolded but we've got to get EMBOLDENED
to prove this. County by small county...that is the way Rove has worked in the past.

He tried the same thing with this election, with the blessing of the Diebold cheating machine.
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:15 AM
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4. I'm still lost, even after looking at the site
Am I just stupid?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:18 AM
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6. interesting precent change
the average % change for rep: 110.9%
the average % change for dem: -12%
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:20 AM
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7. Another important factor
Hillsborough County - Florida
E-Touchscreen
51.2% REP - OVER
11.0% DEM - OVER
241,630 REP #
210,892 DEM #
455,970 TOTAL VOTES
35.1% REP - EXPECT
41.7% DEM - EXPECT
621,201 REGISTERED #
159,843 REP - EXPECTED #
190,023 DEM - EXPECTED #

Kerry was supposed to win by 30,000 votes, but lost by 30,000 votes instead.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:36 AM
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25. Anyone expecting Kerry to win Hillsborough by 30,000 is stone nuts
No offense to the poster, but do some basic research. I'm originally from Florida and that's not a Democratic county. If anything it tilts GOP.

I don't care what the registration numbers are. I'm dead tired and don't want to look it up, but I can almost GUARANTEE Bush won Hillsbourough in 2000, even in a 48/48 race. A 30,000 Bush advantage is just what I would have predicted there, knowing he won the state 52-47.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:58 PM
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47. I just looked it up and I was right; Bush took Hillsborough in 2000
180,000 to 169,000

Kerry should have won by 30,000, my skinny white ass. Bush taking that county by 30,000 again makes complete comparitive sense, given his percentage gain nationwide and in Florida since 2000.

Diebold conspiracy claim debunked again. Ho hum.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:21 AM
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8. no match but would mean that they QUADRUPLED IT!
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:22 AM
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9. Note that this is Tampa's County.
Note that this is Tampa's County.

The Tampa Tribune did NOT endorse Bush (first time in a long time they did not endorse a Repub - only did it once before in 1964)!

The St. Pete. Times endorsed Kerry.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:23 AM
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11. Look at Liberty County for example
Look at Liberty County for example:

Liberty
Op-Scan-Precinct
% CHANGE REP 712.3%
% CHANGE DEM -59.9%
ACTUAL REP 1,927
ACTUAL DEM 1,070
TOTAL VOTES 3,021
% REG REP 7.9%
% REG DDEM 88.3%
TOTAL REG 4,075

For a total # of registered voters of 4075, there should only be 322 Republicans at best. So how did they get 1927 VOTES?!
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:41 AM
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26. On that one your numbers must be way off
I have looked at Florida results for decades. Liberty County is very tiny, but it's not 89% Democratic. My memory is it's always slightly GOP.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:24 AM
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12.  2/3 of Dems Voting for Bush?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:48 AM
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16. Look at Sumter County Florida
Notice the HUGE turnout for Bush and the small turnout for Kerry "supposedly".
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:54 AM
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18. look again
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:55 AM by m berst
Those results are not credible. Scroll down to the optiscan totals. The Diebold totals at the top of the page look OK, but on the optiscan results in county after county Republicans supposedly showed up in numbers that are 2, 3, 4 times the number of registered Republicans living in the county (predominantly Dem counties) while Dem turnout was down. How could you expect a 77% turnout in a predominantly Dem county (7-1 Dem over Rep) and yet have Bush win that county by 8-1?

FDR didn't trounce Hoover that badly. Reagan didn't flip counties that much against Mondale. LBJ didn't against Goldwater. That kind of mirror flip flop of results is just not possible. Can it be coincidence that the county has 7-1 Dem registration but votes 7-1 for Bush?

I have never heard of a Democratic county getting 70-80% turnout and going Republican at all, let alone 5-1, 7-1, 8-1 Republican.

Could it be that Rove has us focusing on Ohio, and on Diebold, and they stole it in Florida with the non-Diebold machines? That would be clever.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:46 AM
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27. That's worth looking into
I didn't examine optical scan counties at all. They are the vast majority, in numbers if not total votes, in Florida. I thought they were secure and reliable but who knows.

Please don't rely on registration figures exclusively. Florida is a very complex state with parts of it like the deep South. DINOs abound. Check out the 2000 presidential results before making wild claims. Remember, no Diebold and much less optical scan in 2000. Punch cards all over the place.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:26 PM
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66. They had plenty of optical scan machines in 2000
AND you can't really rely on 2000 numbers -- not totally, for sure -- because they stole the 2000 Election in FL too.

Further, there was plenty of funny business that happened on the optical scanners (at least some of which ARE Diebold machines, running some of the same software as the touchscreen systems). For instance, in Volusia County, Gore was credited with a MINUS 16,000 votes (I think it was 16K, maybe 13K), thanks to a little credit-card sized plastic card that subsequently, oh-so-mysteriously disappeared after it had just as mysteriously appeared in the first place.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:00 AM
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19. another stat
dem votes: 3,427,885
registered dems: 4,261,249
% turnout: 80.44%

rep votes: 3,796,089
registered reps: 3,892,492
% turnout: 97.52%
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:16 AM
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5. WIN with DIEBOLD
hehe.

We ship same or next day by first class mail - Show your support for the president, wear a FUCK BUSH button!

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

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freedomburn Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:23 AM
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10. Must see video on electronic voting
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Trahurn Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:37 AM
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14. Let Me Remind You Of Something
Ever since I heard this I have been very worried but I read on a reputable democratic news source that many months ago when DIBOLD actually installed their machines in Florida their executives were quoted at saying the promised to deliver Bush a victory in 2004. Seems their promise has been kept. I also heard soon after Bush was anointed as king again DIBOLD executives were celebrating the Bush victory.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:51 AM
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17. Contact NY times and every paper that endorsed Kerry
news-tips@nytimes.com
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:04 AM
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20. smokescreens
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 04:04 AM by m berst
There are all kinds of wild speculations going on and accusations of tinfoil in response, and everyone is angry and upset. That makes it difficult to sort through things critically. People's vision is clouded, and they feel betrayed so they are suspicious of everything, or ready to uncritically believe everything.

But the anomalies in these Florida vote totals just take good old fashioned electoral poltics horse sense to see a problem - a BIG problem - and it is not tinfoil or conspiracy theory stuff. This is highly suspicious and there is no ambiguity to it at all.

Possible objections people will have -

- another conspiracy theory

Answer: No, we aren't saying how it was done, the FBI can sort that out. We are just saying that there is reason - a lot of reason in this case - for suspicion.

- there are not enough votes there to matter even if you are right

Answer: Cheating anywhere raises suspicions everywhere

- you are looking for any reason to have hope for a Kerry win, get over it

Answer: this is not a partisan issue. Most Republicans would look at these totals and be alarmed. This is democracy at stake, not a Kerry win.

That is my thinking so far on this. If someone can straighten me out and I am misreading something in these results, that is fine. I sort of don't want to see what I am seeing there.

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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:15 AM
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22. I think....
We need to gather as much evidence as possible BEFORE going to newspapers and trying to get them to find a story here.

It all looks suspicious, BUT it can also be explained by claiming that the GOP did a much better GOTV campaign, thereby explaining their incredibly inflated vote totals in these areas.

If we can take this chart and some actual empirical evidence to a newspaper, it will be much more convincing than saying, "Look at this, something is OBVIOUSLY wrong"

Things we need to look for:

Consistency. Exit polling data from county to county showing a discrepency in DIEbold county's only. A surge in registration among GOP voters throughout the state in names of people whose actual residences are in other states.

I honestly and truly don't believe these results from Florida are accurate, so I think we need to find a way to investigate.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 12:32 PM
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67. There is a set of graphs showing discrepancies`
I think this is it:

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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:16 AM
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23. My sentiments exactly...
"I sort of don't want to see what I am seeing there."

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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:19 AM
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24. Diebold exposed a loophole
Not really was about to turn off my computer, but did a double check at Kerry/Edwards online forum. Important for all of you to know.

Diebold exposed a loophole which could potentially prove they lied and took Florida

They said 98% of the votes now have come out for republicans......which means the other votes, absentee and other is all independants and demos.....or other, which means thousands and thousands of votes for John Kerry they tried to sweep under the table.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:22 AM
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64. Right. This is a NONpartisan issue
Our democracy is at stake and everyone should be demanding this investigation (except of course those who are in on the fraud and/or happy with the result)
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:05 AM
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21. Going to bed but keep bumping this up
Also keep track of Kerry/Edwards online forum here. The numbers I posted came from posters here. This is very important information and needs to get out tomorrow to every news network!

http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=112163&st=0
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:35 PM
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28. just woke up and bumping this back up hoping everyone will read
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:39 PM
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29. 200,000 people for senate without voting for presidental race
"Almost 200,000 people opted to vote for the senate race without voting for the presidential race."

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/11-02-04.htm
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:42 AM
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56. That's Not True
I appreciate everyone's hard work on analyzing the numbers. However, this one doesn't appear to be true. It shows 5.46 million votes for President in Ohio vs. 5.29 million votes for U.S. Senate. That particular number seems OK.
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emalejim9 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:40 PM
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30. State by state initiatives and propositions
How do we combat the touch screens?? I say we do it state by state with initiatives or propositions that ban them from being used or require a paper trail.

This idea would be easy to gather signatures. Unless the Repukes want to show their true colors that they are not for a fair elections.

Regardless of party, I believe people want some kind of assurance that their vote would be counted
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:42 PM
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31. oct. 4, 2004 registration numbers
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:46 PM
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32. 98% of registered republicans have voted without absentees BIG HINT PEOPLE
98% of registered republicans have voted. So when the absentees come in we will know for sure that there is no way these figures are right.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:37 PM
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44. very good point
Thanks for all of the great work on this AIT.
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:46 PM
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33. I don't know if we can do anything about this
The evidence is probably already destroyed, and if not, it's being destroyed now. Denial will be the only policy.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:47 PM
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34. save what we have so they can't monkey with these figures
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:49 PM
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35. Interesting stats
97.52% turnout and nearly tripled registred dem's % increase on expected turnout

registered dems who voted: 3,427,885
registered dems: 4,261,249
% turnout: 80.44%

registered reps who voted: 3,796,089
registered reps: 3,892,492
% turnout: 97.52%

expected turnout for registered dems: 3,070,702
registered dems who voted: 3,427,885
% change: 11.63%

expected turnout for registered reps: 2,863,605
registered reps who voted: 3,796,089
% change: 32.56%
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:50 PM
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36. Diebold makes Optical Scan Machines too
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:35 PM
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43. yes
Still it is about the cheaters, not about the tools they used to do the cheating, and the cheating is not necessarily happening in the areas we are being led to look at.

And if anyone uses the phrase "tin foil" ever again about critics of and theorists about the cabal that is so blatantly stealing our country.... grrrrrr

We need to save democracy first or no Dem will ever be in office again. Partisanship and worrying about Kerry conceding is all a distraction and is in the way. We will probably need some Republicans of conscience on this (think Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neill) and we alienate potential patriotic allies with the focus on Kerry and with the hate-fest against "fundies" and "the chimp" IMHO.
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:25 PM
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52. where did you get this info?
It looks very strange/suspicious
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:52 PM
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37. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS STAT
e-machine

reg rep: 2,050,619
exp turnout for reg rep: 1,435,385
reg rep who voted: 1,845,876
% turnout: 90%

reg dem: 2,280,374
exp turnout for reg dem: 1,567,297
reg dem who voted: 1,982,210
% turnout: 86.9%


optical scanning:

reg rep: 1,841,873
exp turnout for reg rep: 1,428,220
reg rep who voted: 1,950,213
% turnout: 105.88%

reg dem: 1,980,875
exp turnout for reg dem: 1,503,404
reg dem who voted: 1,445,675
% turnout: 72.98%

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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:56 PM
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38. Are we besieged by freepers or
have some people here not read anything by Bev Harris?
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:59 PM
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39. are these numbers real???
This is screwed up. I am one of the firm believers that there is NO possible way that * could have won like this without rampant cheating.

thanks for your work AIT


TWL
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:32 PM
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53. We have been BOXED--Black boxed
Wexlers bill reqrd as minimum - a check at intervals for just these comparisons.

Where is the military vote also?
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:20 PM
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51. Good one AIT....THIS POST ABOVE SUMS UP ALL THE ABOVE...
And shuts up the critics.

My theory based on this and on my own research about where the new bush votes fell (see the results forum) is this..

In Optiscan counties.. the vote was padded... i.e. as you see more votes recorded than make sense. No idea how but it was padded.... but thato is what it looks like - some of these counties recorded a 64% increase in the republican vote.

In the e-machine counties vote was shaved from democrats and given to republicans. How credible is a 90% repug turnout in the e-voting counties? Remember these counties are mostly big heavily democratic counties. OTOH... a 100+ % dem turnout in these counties may have been credible given that there was such a big GOTV campaign running.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:06 PM
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40. Yes we have.
I've got a thread started on what we can do to prove it. Please check in and provide it a kick. We need to prove this and I need your help to do so.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1317545
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confrontationclaws Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:06 PM
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41. As much as I believe
that the vote count is suspect, I also know that as a life-long Floridian (50+ years), you can't assume that a "Democrat" from a panhandle or north-central Florida county is going to be the same Democratic voter as one in West Palm Beach, Miami, or New York.

There's still some folks that never changed affiliation as the southern democrats "became" republicans. I don't see any way to tell from the data referenced in this thread how many registered democrats may have voted more with their congregation than their party. Those defectors would be skewing this numbers.

I'm more amazed by the hundreds of thousands of Ohio ballots without presidential votes. Huh?

I hate BBV for sure, and I'm going to join whatever movement there is to fight for its ban.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:48 PM
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45. Look again at the numbers
These figures show REGISTERED REPUBLICANS, not crossover votes.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:01 PM
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48. There simply can not be more registered republicans who
voted than there are registered republicans. Yes, there can be democrats who voted for Bush and republicans who voted for Kerry, but how can there be more REGISTERED republicans who voted than there are REGISTERED republicans?
:eyes:
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:01 PM
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42. Weren't all the counties supposed to have the same equipment?
Wasn't that the purpose of the Bush vs. Gore Supreme Court ruling? We should be able to sue under same the "Equal Protection" law.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:38 PM
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46. kick
:kick:
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:12 PM
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49. kick
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:16 PM
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50. A kick for some good investigative work
You have an eye for detail, AIT. Don't give up. Be sure to post this in the voter problem forum, also.

BTW, a friend of mine who is THE BIGGEST SKEPTIC in the world, saw the skewed numbers for Franklin county, Ohio, and his eyes bugged out. I don't have the thread bookmarked, sorry. Something similar to what you're seeing in Florida.

It's all a shell game, folks. A shell game.

:kick:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:45 PM
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54. I just emailed Palast.
Gave him a headsup.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:26 PM
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55. This actually does belong in the report voting problems
thread. Good work.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:33 PM
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57. boo this is still here anymore Du'ers want to read?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:53 PM
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58. PLEASE KEEP THIS BUMPED UP
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:54 PM
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59. PLEASE SEND THIS TO AIR AMERICA
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:04 PM
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60. Don't I remember Soros posting a $10 reward for evidence of this type of
voter fraud?

If so, we should help publicize THAT. It should be enough to entice a programmer to come forward.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:47 PM
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62. Kick!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:41 PM
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63. Kick for the Truth
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:28 PM
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68. kick and I'm not surprised at all
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:54 PM
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69. two kinds of DUers:
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:55 PM by annabanana
"we was robbed,again" (like me)
"what are we doing wrong" (like danpc)

We may not be able to reverse the course of this steamroller now.. but we sure as hell have to get the machines straightend out before '06 or we could lose our filibuster numbers and then, folks...the game is over!
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