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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:02 AM
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Statisticians needed

These faked election results will not hold serious statistical analysis if you take into account the exit polls, Zogby's predictions and the experience of millions who were waiting hours to get to vote.

Very easy to disprove. This would be a proper base for a fight.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:04 AM
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1. Follow the tinfoil road. Follow the tinfoil road
Follow the, follow the, follow the, follow the,
Follow the tinfoil road!

Sorry, exit polls are not more accurate than the actual election.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:09 AM
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2. Just curious, Walt. Why are you stomping down hard on this?
do you say there is NO MERIT to the idea they would use such utter lack of accountability in these paperless systems to commit fraud?

You've had some pretty good thoughts in the past, and I'm not one to jump into conspiracy theories with both feet...but why are you so completely adamant about it with just as few facts on the subject as others here?
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:16 AM
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3. Sorry

Zogby was dead on point everytime.

He predicted a 64:35 majority for Kerry among young voters on the day of election.

According to CNN's (later) exit polls it turned out to be just 54:44.

It's plane simple. Voter fraud. Do the math.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:20 AM
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4. my tin foil hat leads me here
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:09 AM
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5. We should have been investigating these numbers as they were
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 08:20 AM by unfrigginreal
coming in Tuesday night. With the blogosphere, doubt could have been sown before the fact and not after Bush was declared the winner. Too many here though felt it made more sense to ridicule and try to silence those that saw this disturbing pattern developing early.
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:22 AM
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7. indeed

...also, a lot of distraction was going on then, silly postings here on DU. I already knew there was some kind of special purpose behind that, not just a teasing freeper.

But I'm sure there is enough material saved. We have at least time until the the Ohio ballots are counted.

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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:16 AM
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6. I'll post this here also
I realize this is paranoid speculation, but it is also not outside the realm of possibility. Take a state like Ohio. You have a very close race, the Democrats out register the Republicans by 10 to 1 and the early exit polling showed a lead for Kerry. But Bush won. How? In Ohio you have a Republican Secretary of State and Governor who seem willing to do whatever it takes to effect the vote. You also have generous voter residency and registration requirements. And you have Deibold voting machines that don't use paper ballots and can be manipulated.
So if your Karl Rove, you do a few things. First you register a bunch of bogus new voters. But you register them as Democrats. This way no one questions the names. (Why would the Democrats question new Democratic registration?) You do this in very Republican counties where you can find good, God fearing election officials to help. And you use the new Deibold machines that don't need actual people to cast a vote. (ballot box stuffing by software) Come election day you have these "new Democratic voters" cast their vote for Bush. But to pull it off you have to keep it hidden. You use slight-of-hand distraction to keep everyone looking elsewhere. So you hire thousands of poll watchers and lawyers to go into the heavily Democratic urban precincts to suppress the vote. This takes all the resources of the Democrats, and leaves your ballot stuffing activities free from scrutiny. And if you stop some Kerry voters along the way, so much the better.
I have nothing to back this up but my sense that the voting in Ohio just didn't add up. I don't have a good enough knowledge of Ohio or the statistical resources and data to check this out. But it can be done. If some one would to look at some of those "red" counties that had a very heavy voter turnout and went mostly for Bush, and also had larger new voter registration. It would not have taken much to tip the scales. And let's face it, not beyond what Rove is capable of. This is also a scenario that could work equally well in Florida, where you have the same criteria and where the "red" counties overcame the voting in the "blue" counties. Even though the early voting had given Kerry an 8 to 10 % lead.
If I can come up with this plan, the "Boy Genius" would certainly be able to.
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