Lex
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:03 PM
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Evangelicals vs. Classic Republicans vs. Neocons. Sit back & watch. |
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Now that the Repukes have the House and Senate, they are all expecting to ram their agendas through. I expect they will cause each other as much trouble as the Dems will be able to cause them:
Evangelicals: Jerry Falwell has already threatened to start a 3rd party if he doesn't get precisely what he wants--to make the government a peeping-tom into everyone's personal life.
Classic Republicans: The deficit is starting to really rub them the wrong way. They don't want to 'nation build.' Economically conservative and some are socially moderate (don't care for government being a peeping-tom).
Neocons: They don't mind running the deficit up to achieve their goals of dominance in the Middle East. They don't mind 'nation building' or military expansion into other countries. Not necessarily socially conservative--more focused on military dominance.
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:10 PM
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:17 PM
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:19 PM
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3. Repubs have got a tiger by the tail |
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with the Evangelicals. They're not a giant bloc, but they're big enough Repubs can't win without them. And worse for Repubs, they've been crowned heroes of the hour, the guys who delivered for Bush. There'll be no end of agitation from them if they don't get their due schwag pronto. And rightly so. They've been strung along for over 25 years with promises of an end to abortion, restoration of God to schools and govt, criminalization of porn, and the like. No excuses now.
The libertarian and Randian types are gonna be reeeal sorry they climbed into bed with the nutcases.
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:20 PM
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4. how weighted are they in one direction??? |
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I fear there are more Evangelicals than anyone else......What percentage of the party do think is in each group?
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Lex
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:24 PM
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5. I don't know, but there is a schism between those in power |
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and those in the groups.
What I mean is that I don't think the Evangelicals have the guys in the seats in the House and Senate to do their bidding like they want.
And they will be pissed when they don't get what they want right away.
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:32 PM
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6. I read weeks ago exactly what you said... |
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that if Bush won the election, major arguments will begin within the Repugnant party. The "values" that united them for this election won't unite them for long. I can't wait so see what he is going to do about his Iraqi (oil) war. "Not my president" will be drunk with power. Reading a book on Hitler's rise to power. Much of it is not so different from what is going on now. Just makes my heart cry, though, that we will continue to lose so many American soldiers and innocent Iraqi citizens.
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:45 PM
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7. ooohhhh please god let falwell start a third party!!!!! |
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we really need to make this happen! fundies to the falwell party, and real conservatives to the libretarians. the neocons can go down with the ship. DIVIDE AND CONQUER!!!!!
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Lex
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:12 PM
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9. Wouldn't that be grand? |
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Rip the Republican party up, wouldn't it?
I suspect many Republicans are appalled at the influx of the Evangelical "ideas" into their party. They like their votes, but don't want to necessarily push their agenda into laws.
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:46 PM
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8. you are right about this |
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power corrupts doesn`t it......
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Lex
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:31 PM
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10. Just to prove the point |
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Bush is warned (by Arlen Specter) about anti-abortion judges
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Nov. 3, 2004 | PHILADELPHIA (AP) --
The Republican expected to chair the Senate Judiciary Committee next year bluntly warned newly re-elected President Bush on Wednesday against putting forth Supreme Court nominees who would seek to overturn abortion rights or are otherwise too conservative to win confirmation.
Sen. Arlen Specter, fresh from winning a fifth term in Pennsylvania, also said the current Supreme Court now lacks legal ``giants'' on the bench. http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/11/03/abortion/index_np.html
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:33 PM
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But I also think that this a ploy to let the party move even more to the right. "Even if we have Republicans in office, it's not good enough! We need to get rid of Specter!" Plus they can still use abortion as a recuriting tool.
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:44 PM
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12. Ah 'let the games begin' |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:49 PM by Piperay
should be interesting to watch them brawl and stab each other in the backs as they fight between themselves for the 'spoils'. It's going to look like the 'Pirates of the Caribean' (sp?) ride at Disneyland as they loot, rape and pillage.
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:46 PM
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13. We must accomodate the most outlandish rhetoric they pushed |
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I keep saying this and people are shocked.
Give them the opportunity to make good on all of the rhetoric that energized tehir base this year.
If they act upon it, they keep the base energized while turning off the moderate elements.
If they do not act upon it, they piss off their base who stay home in droves.
Either way, we win with no casualties.
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