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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:42 PM
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Still Standing, Still Fighting, Still Here
"It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired."

- Robert Strauss


I've been working on digesting the results of the election. Mark Moford of the San Francisco Chronicle gave perhaps the best description of how I am feeling: "It simply boggles the mind: we've already had four years of some of the most appalling and abusive foreign and domestic policy in American history, some of the most well-documented atrocities ever wrought on the American populace and it's all combined with the biggest and most violently botched and grossly mismanaged war since Vietnam, and much of the nation still insists in living in a giant vat of utter blind faith, still insists on believing the man in the White House couldn't possibly be treating them like a dog treats a fire hydrant."

But I wound up getting some help on perspective from an unexpected quarter. I stood in the wind and the rain outside the Boston Public Library in Copley Square for eight hours on Tuesday night with tens of thousands of Kerry supporters, watching the election returns come in on giant screens, listening to speakers whip up the crowd, listening to girls scream while Jon Bon Jovi worked his way through 'Living on a Prayer.' That last bit was one of the low points. There were others.

As the night wore on and the wind got colder, the returns took a turn for the Bush. When Tom Brokaw came on the big screen and declared that NBC was putting Ohio in the Bush column, you could hear the air go out of the crowd. When the gospel singers came out and started singing 'God Bless America' for the fourth time that night, I decided enough was enough. I walked down to my favorite bar and fired down a pint of Mojo IPA, feeling the outer edges of a truly epic hate-frenzy beginning to work its way into my bones. I shrugged my coat back on, gave the disconsolate bartender a hug, and headed home. On the way, I stopped at the 7/11 and bought a can of Chef Boy-Are-Dee Beef Ravioli.

That's when the unexpected help showed up. As I was sliding my key into the back door of my apartment building, a young man emerged silently from the bushes behind me. I turned the key, and suddenly it felt like my head had exploded. The man from the bushes had thrown what was later revealed to be a large, 20 lb. cobblestone at me. It bounced off my shoulder, blasted into my jaw, and dropped heavily at my feet.

I reeled into the door but didn't fall. The fellow, assuming that anyone struck with a 20 lb. rock was ripe for the picking, started to come at me. I turned, and in a moment of truly dumb Braveheart macho testosterone rage, charged the guy. He stepped back in surprise, and then turned to flee. I pursued him down the street, brandishing the can of ravioli over my head while screaming unkind comments about his inappropriate sexual relationship with his mother, until my jaw reminded me that it might be broken.

After the cops and the EMTs and the x-rays were finished with me, the diagnosis was that nothing was broken or loose. My face is pretty torn up, but I should be able to chew solid food in a couple of days with the help of the Ibuprofen/Percocet cocktail the folks in the emergency room were kind enough to give me. As for the guy who threw the rock, I have no idea where he came from or what he was about. There are a few junkies wandering my neighborhood, so I assume this was an attempted mugging...possibly the first mugging in American history to be thwarted by a thick skull and a can of Chef Boy-Are-Dee.

Beyond the pain and the big scare, I am actually grateful for what happened. This may seem strange, but getting belted with a boulder did wonders for my perspective. If his aim had been a little better, just a couple of inches to the left, I'd probably be dead right now. I have the rock sitting on my desk in front of me, with an inscription written on it in indelible ink: 'There Are Worse Things Than Losing An Election.' A narrow perspective, to be sure, but a hard one to avoid while living inside my own bruised head.

To be sure, a second term for George W. Bush promises to be a debacle of generational proportions. The courts will be stacked with ideological brothers of Antonin Scalia. Roe v. Wade will be cast down. The full frontal assault on the Federal budget, on Social Security, on Medicare, on anything resembling government-subsidized assistance for people who did not get the lion's share of Bush's tax cuts, will continue unabated. The war in Iraq will grind on, and likely be expanded to include Iran and Syria. If those military adventures fare as poorly as what has happened in Iraq, a military draft will not be far off.

Sidney Blumenthal described it this way: "Now, without constraints, Bush can pursue the dreams he campaigned for -- the use of U.S. military might to bring God's gift of freedom to the world, with no more 'global tests,' and at home the enactment of the imperatives of 'the right God.' The international system of collective security forged in World War II and tempered in the Cold War is a thing of the past. The Democratic Party, despite its best efforts, has failed to rein in the radicalism sweeping the country. The world is in a state of emergency but also irrelevant. The New World, with all its power and might, stepping forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old? Goodbye to all that."

Perhaps the best indicator of what a now-unfettered Bush is going to be like over the next four years came during his Thursday press conference. Associated Press reporter Terence Hunt opened the questioning with a three-part query. Bush responded to his questions by saying, "Now that I've got the will of the people at my back, I'm going to start enforcing the one-question rule. That was three." When another reporter dared to ask a multi-pronged question, Bush's response was, "Again, he violated the one-question rule right off the bat. Obviously you didn't listen to the will of the people." In other words, journalists, sit down and shut up.

There are a few bright spots to point to in the aftermath. John Ashcroft will reportedly resign his position before the inauguration. While it is certain that Bush will nominate another far-right lunatic to replace him, unless that nominee is Atilla the Hun, any new Attorney General will be an improvement. There is also the brewing fight between the conservatives and the neo-conservatives within the Republican Party. A number of old-style conservatives were secretly hoping for a Kerry victory, because it would give them an opening to purge the GOP of the neo-cons and the far-right religious fundamentalists from the party. Now that Bush has a second term, this fight will probably break wide open.

Finally, the long fight to bring the glaring problems associated with the new electronic voting machines may finally break fully into the mainstream. There are some glaring discrepancies between the pre-election polls, the exit polls, and the final results out of counties in Florida and Ohio that used the machines. While eating an electoral defeat seems an incredible price to pay for initiating this dialog and investigation, consider the long term. If an investigation into the use of these machines in this election winds up requiring voters be given a paper confirmation of their vote, this democracy will look back on Tuesday November 2, 2004 as a necessary and beneficial trauma.

Despite these bright spots, the inscription on my memorial rock - 'There Are Worse Things Than Losing An Election' - seems absurd in the face of all this. Maybe it's the concussion talking, but I honestly believe the rock is right. For one thing, worse than losing the election would be a collective acceptance of why the election was lost. We hear from every quarter that the election was lost because more people lined up with Bush on the question of 'Values.' There is a degree of truth to this. Ten states had referendums on the ballot about gay marriage, for one example. The Republican base flooded to the polls to vote against it. This helped Bush, surely, along with some other 'Values'-oriented issues, but this does not account for the final result. He was going to get that vote anyway. There is an elephant in the room here, and ignoring it would be worse than the electoral defeat.

The result of this election is nothing more or less than the culmination of a three-year terror campaign waged by the Bush administration and his campaign crew. Every day for three years, the American people were bombarded with messages of fear from the administration. Day after day, the Bush administration used September 11 to cow any and all dissent, to bend popular will, to frighten people into thinking that voting against Bush was a vote for death and destruction.

It worked. Millions of Americans, after three years of state-sponsored fear roaring out of their televisions 24/7/365, went to the polls and solemnly voted against their best interests. Buying into the idea that 'Values' alone determined the election outcome would be a disaster, as would buying into the idea that America is now a center-right nation, as would buying into the argument that Bush now has a mandate. It isn't true. The election turned on Bush's willingness to terrify the people he is supposed to be leading, and any refusal to acknowledge this will compound the wretched result of this election by orders of magnitude.

It is amazing that this election was as close as it was. Kerry should never have come as close as he did to victory, given the campaign of fear that was waged against the American people by this administration. Worse than losing the election, therefore, would be an acceptance of the idea that all the work, all the shoeleather spent in the movement to vote Bush out was a complete failure. It wasn't. The movement did better than it had any right to, and it still has work to do. Worse than losing the election would be an abandonment of that movement. It isn't over, but has only just begun.

Howard Dean recently wrote, "There is more to politics than elections. Thousands of young people have discovered, as generations have before them, their efforts matter. Their actions matter because by getting in the game instead of staying on the sidelines, they are empowered, whether or not their candidate wins. Historically, whether through the campaign of Gene McCarthy in 1968 or John McCain in 2000, the enthusiasm and hard work waned after the election. This time we cannot let that happen. Democracy is the most highly evolved system of government ever created by human beings. And like everything else we create, it will wither and die unless we nurture it."

Now more than ever, the movement that began on December 12, 2000 must continue. Billions of people around the world woke up on Wednesday afraid, fully convinced that the United States of America has finally and completely lost its collective mind. The movement must assure them that we have their back. The soldier and civilian death toll in Iraq continues to climb unabated, and those still alive in that cauldron of violence need to be assured that we have their back. The millions of Americans who do not fit in to Bush's grand evangelical plan for the country need to know that we have their back.

If despair and despondency still color your world after the election, remember this: Every second-term President since Eisenhower has met with a blizzard of shame and disgrace before they left office. Nixon didn't get to finish his term and needed Ford to keep him out of prison, Reagan needed Bush Sr. to pardon a whole mob of cretins to kill the Iran/Contra scandal, and Clinton was impeached for lying about consensual sex.

If the first four years of this administration are any indication of what is to come, and if the movement continues to hammer him for the next four years as it has for the last four years, the name of George W. Bush will wind up echoing down the hallways of history as the single worst President the nation has ever known. The name of George W. Bush will stand as a grave warning and a strident reminder of how badly and how quickly things can go wrong in our democracy.

I'm going to stick around to see that happen. It will take more than a rock, or a lost election, to blow out my pilot light. I'll see you on the battlements.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:48 PM
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1. Will, you rock
Or your rock rocks.

May it be the will of your rock.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:54 PM
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3. Word....rock will rock
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 04:55 PM by MsTryska
:yourock:
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:49 PM
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2. You bought Chef Boy-Are-Dee?
As always, an excellent perspective, Will,

We hope for the best, prepare for the worst, regroup, re-energize and kick it up a notch. It takes time and energy but NOTHING worth fighting for comes easy. And it's all still worth fighting for...

Take care of that jaw.


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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:02 PM
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4. .
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:02 PM
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5. As much as I agree I just can't get the image of you running ...
down the street with a can of Chef Boy-ar-dee over your head.

Glad to hear you are all right.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:24 PM
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10. and screaming out 'MoFo' - lol! glad you're ok, Will
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:02 PM
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6. About that missile aimed at your head
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:48 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
If it was a curbing stone then those things are made of granite-one of the densest stones there is.
You are lucky as all hell that wasn't exactly Roger Clemens hurling it.

About Kerry- he did a fine job. Shit- WAY beyond fine. I am proud as hell of how he represented us and was the best America could offer itself AND the world. It's just too bad about his character flaws that made him unpalatable to the unthinking voter.

PS: I hope to hell Bev Harris gives those Bush bastards the fight they deserve.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:03 PM
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7. Which character flaws?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:08 PM
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8. I meant the way he presented himself and his ideas.
maybe communication mistakes- I called it his dense intellectualism on another thread. The "French" and flip flopping and liberal from Mass. things worked to a certain degree.
I insist that Kerry only failed the character/beer drinking test with the idiots that could have swung the election.
We were so damned close too.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:05 PM
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22. the only "communication mistakes" made
were the ways the RNC and the corporate media portrayed Kerry.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM
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9. this should have been like the 72 election
but it wasn't. And it wasn't because we ran a good candidate and we were motivated.

We played fair and lost. They played dirty and won. Its as simple as that.

Great post Will. Feel better buddy.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:30 PM
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11. You're right - Bush will bring his own self down.
Napoleon said something like: Do not interrupt your enemy while he is making a big mistake.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:06 PM
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23. I shudder to think
what else that evil bastard has to DO to "bring his own self down."
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:35 PM
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27. He has plenty more in his dirty bag of tricks...
His 'moral' laws thrust upon us
His picking our pockets for what little lint we have left
His murderous rampages around the globe using our children's bodies and those of others
His use of pharms and farms
His environmentally illness

etc etc.

the pig has all the big toys and he will play play play until it's bedtime.

- then probably declare martial law, which is The worst case scenario -
Maybe this was the last election we'll ever see, fixed or not.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:01 AM
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40. I have no issue with that
I like letting my foe do the hard work for me. As Sun Tzu said,

"A master strategist makes himself invincible and waits for his foe's moment of vulnerability."
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:33 PM
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12. Thanks Will...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:35 PM by VelmaD
for giving lie to this election being about "moral values". Thank you for bringing up the problem of electronic voting. Thank you for reminding us that we have to stand and fight.

Mostly thank you for having a thick skull. Don't know what I'd do without you around to keep kicking my ass. :) :hug:

P.S. Double check on the number of anti-gay marriage ammendments. I've seen conflicting numbers all day about how many there were.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:35 PM
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13. Bravo, Will! Such a great message, and a great attitude.
And thank God you weren't hurt worse. Prayers for a speedy recovery.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:46 PM
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15. Brilliant
insight and perspective as always, Will.

I've been thinking a lot in the past two days and we're not in bad a place as it would seem. We've got a great network of grassroots organizations. We have the internet. We have Air America. There are news shows still left on TV that slant our way, or at least, toward the center (Lou Dobbs, Keith Olbermann). We know that we can raise a tremendous amount of money when we set our minds to it. Hell, sticking it to Sinclair alone was a great example of what we can do when we set our minds to it!

And 55 million people in this country came out to speak against this president and his vile administration on Tuesday. And finally, we are "gifted" with the most inept president in modern day history. It is only a matter of time before he and his administration implode. And we will be there, night and day, for the next four years, dogging them every single step of the way.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:38 PM
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14. Your tinfoil hat protected you
The randomness of it on that night of all nights...I am imagining what we would be thinking if you couldn't tell us this story...Damn I'm still thinking it.

Would anyone want to "Wellstone" you Will?

Please be sure to carry two cans of ravioli if you must go out after dark!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:48 PM
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16. bookmarked
It helps me feel better.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:50 PM
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17. In my opinion
If the fight breaks out between the moderates and the radical right, we need to aid the moderates with all the strength we can muster.
I also believe that John Ashcroft's retirement is simply an easy concession on their part to take the wind out of some the opposition. I don't think that Ashcroft is particularly upset about it and he and his ilk aren't going anywhere.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:01 PM
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18. Two things.
(Is this for Truthout?) First - this sentence: "Ten states had referendums on the ballot about gay marriage, for one example." There were eleven. One state was my own, so the ten figure didn't quite sound right.

Second- tell me that can of Chef-Boy-Ardee was for your cats. Please.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:02 PM
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19. Oh, and I have a pile of
old, hand-chisled cobblestones in my backyard. They were traditionally used for ship ballast. Is that what you were hit with?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:05 PM
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21. Yup
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:04 PM
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20. I AM WITH YOU, WILLIAM
indeed I AM.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:09 PM
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24. Well said, Will
I'm grateful for your thick skull and your sad but apparently scary can of dinner. We need your voice.

I'm clinging to the fighters right now, and waiting for the "Fuck it all" threads to die down. I understand them, but I'm not with them. I'm a fighter, and as soon as I get my strength back I will be there.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:10 PM
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25. Youd definitely have a gift my man......
This should go to every newspaper LTTE column in the country....
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:33 PM
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26. LINK TO FINAL
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:35 PM
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28. Thank you, Will
It has been a nighmarish two days. Glad you're feeling better, btw.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:37 PM
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29. Who Can Confirm or Refute These Figures????
If they're right I don't know how any argument can be raised against an investigation into massive voter fraud in Florida using the op-scan voting machines.

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

Just for example:

Franklin County. 77.3% of voters registered Dems. Only 15.9% registered Reps. 58.5% of the votes reported FOR BUSH???

Holmes County. 72.7% of voters registered Dems. Only 21.3% registered Reps. 77% of the votes reported FOR BUSH???

Calhoun County. 82.4% of voters registered Dems. Only 11.9% registered Reps. 63.4% of the votes reported FOR BUSH???

And on, and on...

Please, someone confirm those numbers aren't bullshit, both the percentages of registered voters in those areas and the reported returns. If that's what actually got reported there's no way around a case for fraud.

-Grant
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:15 AM
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43. Wow, can those numbers be right??? n/t
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:38 PM
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30. Will, I don't much feel like fighting right now.
Maybe later, but not right now.

It appears that THEY are right - we're not in touch with "mainstream America". Of course, "mainstream America" have proven themselves to be gutless, immoral idiots, and I'd prefer to remain out of touch with those spineless cowardly bastards.

I hope they get everyrhing they want and end up choking on it. Fuck em. I have better things to do right now.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:40 PM
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31. relieved you're ok, will.
:grouphug:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:08 PM
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32. You and me both
:)
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noonriser Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:29 PM
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33. So glad you're alright
I haven't been around DU all that long, but I've already come to relish your eloquent and insightful articles, posts, etc. Thanks so much and get better soon!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:05 PM
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34. Many thanks
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:00 AM
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35. .
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:12 AM
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36. Will...........
....why does a unique person like you live alone? You need someone to do better than Boy-Are-Dee for you on election night. Someone with your talent should have a rich Beacon Hill patron, if not at least a chum to bring you chowdah. I worry about you.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:52 AM
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39. Welp...
My relationship of eight years ended a few months ago. All of the friends I grew up with and/or went to college with have gotten married, had kids, and bought houses an hour or more away from the city, out past 495 where the real estate is still vaguely affordable.

Two in particular: My best friend Dave bought a place out in Franklin (i.e. East Jesus the other side of Massachusetts) a few years ago, just had a baby boy, and is moving to Atlanta after the New Year for a better job and a bigger house so they can have more kids. My roommate, an excellent guy, has fallen head over heels in love with this amazing woman who looks like a Bond girl - seriously, she's badass - and he is always off with her. He'll be moving in with her at the end of the month, on the other side of town.

So I am, temporarily, flat out of people to hang out with. It's cool, though. Gives me more time to work, and I've met a pretty cool crowd of people recently that I'm getting to know.

I *like* Chef Boy-Are-Dee, anyway. Lived on the stuff as a kid. Sometimes, especially after days like last Tuesday, you just need the comfort food.

;)

Thanks.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 AM
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46. Nothing wrong with comfort food
Wednesday night I went over to my best friend's house and had chili dogs, tater tots and Oreo cookies. :) Did me a WORLD of good.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:39 PM
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49. Have you ever considered
cashing in on your rock star credentials? I'm quite sure I'm not the only person here smitten with you and a few of the smitten must live fairly close.

Actually, though, it kind of sucks to be desired for the illusion, which is what the image is by virtue of being an image.

Oh well, never mind. Chef Boy Are Dee, though? I guess it's an eye of the beholder thing.













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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:25 AM
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37. Fucking kick ass Will!
Hope you are feeling better.

On Friday, Dec. 7, 2001, in a New Orleans cafe, I said to the astonishment of the right wing nutjobs sitting at the table that George W. Bush will go down in history as the worst U. S. president. I stand by that statement. I'll also say that Bush&Co stole this election right in front of our eyes... again.

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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:42 AM
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38. i'm of the belief that tiger balm cures everything. if you need some,
let me know. hope your noggin feels better--and quickly too.
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 AM
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41. will...
just...

thanks, man.

I think we're so lucky to have you among us.

I'm still all teary and whatnot, so I'll just leave it at that.

:hug:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 AM
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42. Hey when the percocets wear off
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 AM by DoYouEverWonder
check out what's going on with the voter fraud stuff.

Folks are digging through the data for FL and OH especially and there are some real interesting 'anomolies'.

Maybe I'm a fool, but this thing still isn't over, at least not until Dec when the Electoral College votes.

In the meantime, I hope you heal up soon and thanks for another great article.

PBWY
DYEW
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:13 AM
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44. Hiya Will-

Sorry to hear of this incident. And everything around it. Sorry to hear about the young lady, too. What a rough year for you.

The story of this past four years is that the Religious Right has had the Modern world get right in its face. And this is how it behaves- sheer avoidance and lashing out. I think there has been far too much looking at the tactical aspects of the game. We have to do some strategic work.

We can't do much about the elderly people who showed up to vote against this world they never were taught to deal with properly, and who don't actually believe in the 14th Amendment (or, for that matter, any of them). But something has to be done to get the Red State young to abandon all that crap that passes for a kind of religiousness and 'morality' and such that, in actuality, merely amounts to politics of reaction.

Someone has to write the (young) user's manual on what the Religious Right is, what about it is corrupt about its pretense to Christianity, what the real deal with abortion/gays/etc really is, its pervasive occultism, and why no person with integrity or insight and information, or a way out, can accept the package and its politics. And why people actually have done so in such large numbers, what the psychological pull is, and what the basic fallacy of continuing to do so really is.

You have the gift of excellent ability to demonstrate, polemicize, and simplify things in writing. Doesn't this sound like a job you might like to take on? Wouldn't this be a way to set fire to the supports of (American) theocracy, the perpetual proponent of censorship and bookburning and eternal enemy of the investigative journalist?

Just a thought I felt I should tell you about.



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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:20 AM
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:47 AM
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47. ALWAYS enjoy your writing Will
Have you looked into getting a syndicated column? We REALLY need your voice out there. You are very talented and have a gift with words.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:51 AM
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48. Right on!
I never saw myself as a quitter and I certainly won't become one now!
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