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timeforachange Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:08 PM
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Hillary Clinton/Barrack Obama - democratic dream team ticket 2008
Energize women and minorities like never before and fight like hell.

There is no other ticket that would energize women and the black community more. And these are the democrats CORE and most reliable voters.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:14 PM
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1. Hillary energizes no one
And I wish people would stop posting Hillary 08 crap. Our focus needs to be Senate '06
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:17 PM
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2. Do we have to keep going here....
Obama...sure thing.

Hillary? Why not suggest running Satan (which is how the right wing sees her)?

Make no mistake, I respect Hillary, but I just can't see her as a viable candidate with all the right wing acrimony against her.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:17 PM
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3. No, that's a Republican dream ticket
I'm sure that Rove fantasizes about it. I'm sure that Rove would like nothing better than to run the first presidential campaign in history to carry every single state.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:32 PM
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28. This is a dream ticket. . .
What this ticket would do is smoke all of the bigots and racists out.

I truly believe that most of the people in this country are honest-hearted good people who aren't bigots. The only reason why they voted Bush is because they were scammed into believing that certain
people exercising certain rights was wrong.

A Clinton/Obama ticket would force the radical right (small percentage of people) to literally admit that they despise women and
people of color. The resulting backlash from good Americans would
sweep Clinton/Obama to power and rip the masks of the hipocritical right.

A scene I'd love to see. . .
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:46 PM
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36. Can I have whatever you're smoking?
Clinton has far too much baggage and is from the Northeast, and both Clinton and Obama are in the Senate. Have we learned nothing from this election? We cannot have a Senator run for the office of President in 2008. In addition, any Democratic Candidate will need to come from the midwest or south.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:54 PM
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38. They're already out there
In the Red States and counties... In the open too. How the hell else do you explain a bunch of Fuckwads who vote for Democrats because Rebublicans freed the slaves... Then, vote Republican because the Democrats enforced their rights...

Biggoted pieces of shit. I have had enough of them. Join the 21st Century or have the liberated part of this country go Sherman on your backward ass states.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:21 PM
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4. Listen, and listen good.
NO-FUCKING-BODY wants Hillary Clinton to run in 08! You got that?!?

She's a fine senator and all that, but WE DON'T WANT HER TO RUN!

OK?

Tell Hannity and the rest of them to stop making her into a goddamn boogyman.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:06 AM
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41. You took the words out of my mouth, Blue-Jay. n/t
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:22 PM
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5. Right (sarcasm)
More like no other ticket would energize Republicans quite like the one you want.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:23 PM
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6. this is not a ticket that would win
Hillary on our ticket would energize the other side more than our side.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:23 PM
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7. Your new around here, so let me point out
that no body wants Hillary to run. That is only a Freeper's wet dream.
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timeforachange Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:24 PM
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10. that's bullshit
she was consitently leading all the primary polls back in 2003.

Democrats wanted her to run. Most of them just don't visit this site. But they are out there.

Millions of them.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:28 PM
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16. Whatever you say
I'll look forward to links to those primary polls from 2003, showing that Democrats (rather than ranting right wing Republicans) wanted anything to do with Hillary on the national ticket.

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:37 PM
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31. No...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 11:38 PM by Robeson
...they cannot be produced, because there are none.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:29 PM
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17. Democrats = Them, not Us?
Interesting choice of words.

Fact of the matter, if you think she can do it, then join her campaign. She doesn't get support here for a Presidential run, though she will have my support when she runs for the Senate again.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:32 PM
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21. Hillary was leading in 2003? So was Joe Lieberman.
Doesn't mean that was a good idea; it was only popular with those who couldn't name any other Democrats.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:37 PM
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23. How about you go educate yourself?
Get this: WE (the Democrats) don't see Hillary (the republican's antichrist) as a viable candidate. (PERIOD)

Find another devil to scare the fundies with, you git.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:02 PM
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27. Name recognition isn't support. No one's taking your bait,so give it up.
Go tell the repubs to run Trent Lott instead.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:40 PM
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33. Millions? Are Those The Ones That Didn't Vote Last Tuesday?
I was and am a totally unafilliated Democrat. I had no candidate in the 2002 primary and I doubt I'll have one the next time around. Surely Hillary is not near the top of my list, nor is my own new Senator Barak Obama. I don't know enough about him and I've been following his career for the past 3 years.

Hillary is, as others say, a Freeper's wet dream and draws the highest negatives in the areas the Democrats did the poorest...suburbia.

Before someone starts calling you a Freeper, if they haven't already, I'd be careful in trying to speak for others rather than yourself...that gets one in a lot of trouble around here.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:24 PM
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8. Nope
Not Hilary. WHy not just cut to the chase and run Obama.

MzPip
:dem:
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usg353d Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:24 PM
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9. If we can't elect a tall white man from Mass
How the hell are we to elect a senator from NY and a black man with a funny name?

Would I like it if it were guaranteed? Hell ya. But this country is too stupid for that to happen.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:26 PM
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a FEMALE senator from New York.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:24 PM
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11. Love 'em both. But that ticket would lose. It's too polarizaing.
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timeforachange Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:28 PM
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15. Bush/Cheney is polarizing
and they won.

Let me clue you people in on the things BUsh will do over the next 4 years:

2 more wars with syria and iran.

a draft.

an economic collapse and depression.

You'll be surprised what people fed up will vote for. People will vote for Hillary after the republicans run this country into the ground.

They will think back to the 90's and hope for a better tomorrow.

Just watch and see.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:30 PM
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18. Yep, Bush will do that, Hillary still can't win
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:30 PM
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20. Hillary has no executive experience at all
Why wouldn't "we" nominate someone that actually stands a chance of winning?

You must think you are pretty clever to propose that - did you think of it all on your own?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:32 PM
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22. Hillary would help get out the GOP vote and not take enough from...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:34 PM by AP
...the middle.

Democrats win when they appeal to people in the middle.

The last four years couldn't have been worse, but Bush won by polarizing America. Democrats can't let Republicans win that way again.
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Getchasome Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:26 PM
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12. We'll get slaughtered with that ticket
Let's face it people, the religious right has a stangle hold on our government right now. I just read a stat that said 59% of the American population believe in prophecies written in the book of revalation and that we are living in end times. You'll never win an election unless you're a born again, bible thumping, superstitious loon that plays to the masses. The masses are asses and they LOVE Bush, because he hates gays and believes in God.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:26 PM
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13. except for the Hillary Clinton part
:shrug:

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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:27 PM
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14. No way! This is flame bait! Hillary for Pres. is Rush/Rove talk.
Just propaganda to take away from her accomplishments in the Senate,paint her as power mad,and to divide the party. If you are in any way serious (which I doubt) support her against Rudy in 2006 for the Senate instead.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:30 PM
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19. wrong, its a repub dream ticket. this time, rove had to work for fundy
votes....if they ran, they'd line up in droves.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:59 PM
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24. Oh yeah....brilliant strategy...two people from IIlinois...
...that will go over big I tell yah....
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Peter1x9 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:06 AM
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42. self deleted
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:07 AM by Peter1x9
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:03 PM
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25. (No Offense) Did you watch this last election?
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 06:04 PM by gatorboy
The South (And I'm from Arkansas so I know from experience), voted on their religious, bigoted views. You seriously think these same individuals would give a black president a chance? Not in my lifetime.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:05 PM
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26. 24 posts & suggest hillary should run
enjoy your stay, ass hat.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:08 AM
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45. You beat me to it...sorry but ANYONE posting Hillary-08
( and I LOVE Hillary and Bill)...is ;

a) smoking crack

OR

b) a FReepturd

I was holding judgement but boy , that made me laugh.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:35 PM
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29. Hillary lacks Bill's charisma and is a lightning rod for Conservatives
I don't think Hillary would be a successful candidate.
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DWolper Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:35 PM
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30. You mean if we want a 50 state shutout?
Kerry-Edwards was "relatively" close.
Clinton-Obama would be a blow-out.
Don't we learn anything?
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:39 PM
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32. This would be a total fiasco. We would lose in grand style.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:40 PM
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34. NO F**King Way
Brilliant lets have another tight ass, "I have a program" psuedo liberal and a lightening rod. Now there's somebody who makes folsk feel warm all over. The Repugs are the ones putting her up as the likely front runner. Get real!

Obama may be good but give the man some time to learn the job
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:41 PM
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35. God, You People Are None Too Clever
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:49 PM
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37. I really like Hillary
but I think she has insurmountable image problems with "regulur Amuricuns."


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socalover Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:03 AM
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39. Barrack YES! Hillary, not sure.....
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 AM
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40. Hillary would make a great president IF she could win. But she can't..
so why bother.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:06 AM
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43. one more reason i'm done with the Democratic party
Thinking that Hillary Clinton could ever be president.

:eyes:

The Democratic Party is dead folks. R.I.P.

Hillary's just a DINO anyway.
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Peter1x9 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:07 AM
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44. I'd rather see an Edwards/Obama ticket (nt)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:12 AM
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46. That ticket would be the single biggest loser in history
I'm sorry, but that ticket is actually the Republican dream ticket for the Democrats to choose in 2008.

I like and respect both individuals immensely, but that ticket is doomed to failure.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 AM
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47. Yeah, a republican's dream!
In spite of being a center-right democrat whose health plan was a giveaway to the health insurance industry, the meme that Hillary is a ball-busting feminazi ultra-liberal is cemented in the minds of most by the mainstram media. Run her with a yet-unproven black guy - I'm sure Rove is creaming his jeans at the thought of it.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:22 AM
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48. these two could barely get 35% of the popular vote
a woman and a black man? in racist/sexist America? are you insane?
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Arlington Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:27 AM
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49. what the r's realized back in reagan days
is that you don't really need to run a brainy leader, just a personable person to drive the bus.

And the horrible truth is that UNLESS a once in a generation leader like bubba comes along to combine brains and awshucks appeal, then you had better get busy and find your busdriver. As the Bush machine has proven, if you have a tough management team and a disciplined agenda, you can run a total idiot for president and win. Because you can run the executive with a figurehead. And it is better to control the executive office than to lose it running someone who is capable but unelectable.
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