Rick Santorum, Rudolph Giuliani among 2008 Prez hopefuls

[ecstatic]

YUCK!

I don't know much about Santorum (besides his bigotry), but Giuliani is just plain dumb. Dumber than Bush, I would venture (based on the interviews he has been giving lately).

"Besides Frist, the lineup includes Sens. John McCain of Arizona, George Allen of Virginia, Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. Also, former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and at least two governors - Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and George Pataki of New York.

There also is Jeb Bush, although the Florida governor has said he won't try to follow his father and brother to the White House. "


http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?&idq=/ff/story/0001/20041104/0248734844.htm&sc=1131

[Lavender Brown]

1. Giuliani, Pataki?

I don't understand why they would choose someone who could lose in his own state.

[tjdee]

2. Giuliani is pro-choice, and Jeb is a Catholic and wife is a Mexican.

Since the wackos run the Republican party these days, neither is a viable choice for them.

[ComerPerro]

4. All Giuliani has to do about the pro-choice stance

is change it between now and 2008. That's all he has to do. It won't matter that he was pro-choice before he decided to run for president as a conservative. Hell, it probably won't even be mentioned.

Don't believe me? Check this out:

(This was from World Net Daily just before the Iraq war)

As more Hollywood stars take up the role of anti-war activist, more citizens are throwing their support behind a grass-roots effort to counter the weight of the celebrities' voices, and to the organizer of the effort that means exposing the stars' hidden agenda.

Some 10,000 people have signed an online petition entitled "Citizens Against Celebrity 'Pundits'" since it was posted by a North Carolina mother little more than a month ago.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Lori Bardsley accuses celebrity "pundits," as she calls them, of using their celebrity to interfere with the defense of the country.

The 38-year-old mother of three told WND she was angered into action by the open letter signed by actors Mike Farrell, Martin Sheen and more than 100 other Tinsel Town pals asking President Bush to back down on Iraq.

<<<snip>>>

But what goads Bardsley the most is that she sees the anti-war stance as a sham.

"I feel there's an underlying pro-choice agenda behind this," she said. "Even if ... Bush baked a cake and had tea with Saddam Hussein, the whole crisis ended successfully, the stock market soared and everybody was happy with the economy, they would still criticize Bush because he's pro-life. There isn't anything the man can do to make them happy."

<<<snip>>>

Bardsley also maintains that if you watch the interviews closely, the celebrities often wind up bringing up the "pro-choice" issue.

She cited the example of actor Ed Harris' recent anti-Bush diatribe at a gathering celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision.

<<<snip>>>

Why is Bardsley so concerned about what she sees as the hidden agenda behind the pacificism?

Bardsley admits having grown up heavily under the influence of Hollywood as a teen-ager and feels that influence taught her to view abortion as an acceptable form of birth control.

"I remember cheering in front of the television as I watched Gloria Steinem and her Hollywood friends march in D.C. for choice. It would be many years later that I would have three abortions in place of birth control and end up with complicated pregnancies as a result of my choice," she said.

What turned Bardsley around was hearing the heartbeat of her fourth baby. Now, she's committed to countering the Hollywood influence for her children.



Look. I mean, obviously, this woman is a complete idiot. But her hypocracy knows no bounds. She is adamantly anti-abortion, yet she had three of them herself. And not a one was for health reasons. She used abortion as birth control!

[tedoll78]

3. We need to begin oppo research on each potential GOP candidate.

I'd propose that DU have an Opposition Candidate Research forum up and running by the end of each year. We should be able to consolidate unflattering data, photoshops, quotations, stories, personal failings, etc on each and every GOP candidate.

For example, we can play-up the "Kitten Killer" angle with Frist if he were to gain the nomination. We could have disgusting, detailed stories about the things he's done. We could model the smear campaign against him in a fashion similar to the SwiftBoat Vets. I'm talking about some serious mud here.