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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:36 PM
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Outside the South, Kerry won solidly and other election tidbits
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:43 PM by WI_DEM
Yes, Bush was elected and won over 3 million more popular votes, but voter turnout was very high and its tough to defeat an incumbent at a time of war. There is also the power of the incumbancy as well as the media which is protective of Bush. These were all tough obstacles. But consider this:

Kerry got well over 55,000,000 votes--in the end he will get more than five million more votes than Al Gore did in 2000 and the most votes any Democrat has ever received running for president, and the second highest vote tally in history.

Kerry received 48% of the vote--the same percentage that Gore got in 2000--and only 1-point lower than what Clinton got in his re-election in 1996.

Had only 129,000 voters (or less, we don't know what the final count in Ohio will be) in Ohio had switched, Kerry would have won the electoral vote and been elected president.

As it is Bush will win only at most 286 electoral votes, only 16 more than needed to win the narrowest electoral and popular vote victory of any president to win re-election since 1916.

Outside of the South, Kerry won the popular vote with 39,463,933 votes to Bush's 37,078,825--a nearly 2.4 million vote plurality, unfortunately, Kerry only received 42.2% of the Southern vote, losing by nearly 6 million votes--22,029,570 for Bush to 16,090,181 for Kerry.

Obviously the south is a major problem

Bush clearly won no mandate, this country is still polarized and heavily divided.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:46 PM
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1. I don't care
I'm going to kick my own post!! :)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:48 PM
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2. damn Lincoln
its all his fault. :D
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:58 PM
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3. Bush needed the anti gay amendments to run up the popular vote
if not for those i really believe his popular vote would not be as high and probably lower than kerry's. and he probably would have lost ohio. and if florida did not have the proposition on parental consent for abortions on the ballots, Kerry would have won there also.

rove spend the last few years getting their GOTV effort ready among the religious voters. the fact they are all united in opposition to gay rights makes it easier to turn out their votes when there are anti gay things on the ballots.

GOTV is tougher for democrats as there is no one issue everyone is equally united on with same level of passion as republicans have with gay rights or abortion. but the results do show that we were still strong. and we can build upon that.

rove has the churches where they went to build up their support. what institutions do we have ? there are colleges but students come and go unlike churches where people go regularly during their life and build up a strong support network.

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:13 PM
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4. We only won Wisconsin by a fraction of a percent.
11,813 votes out of almost 3,000,000 cast.

Clearly the south is not the only problem here.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:15 PM
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5. Look, I'm from the South. Dems only win the presidency with
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 07:16 PM by MJDuncan1982
a southerner. How blind do you have to be to not see that we need to stick with Southern Democrats?

This is an election - Freepers know that winning is all that there is.

If it takes a Southern Democrat then f**king nominate a Southern Democrat!
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