MUST READ: If Greg Palast says Kerry won, take it to the bank.

[TruthIsAll]

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php


Kerry Won. . .
Greg Palast
November 04, 2004


Bush won Ohio by 136,483 votes. In the United States, about 3 percent of votes cast are voided—known as “spoilage” in election jargon—because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Drawing on what happened in Florida and studies of elections past, Palast argues that if Ohio’s discarded ballots were counted, Kerry would have won the state. Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots. So far there's no indication that Palast's hypothesis will be tested because only the provisional ballots are being counted.

Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight. The documentary, "Bush Family Fortunes," based on his New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, has been released this month on DVD .

Kerry won. Here are the facts.

I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad. But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.

Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with—and therefore contaminated by—the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.

So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.

Here's why. Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted.
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[WI_DEM]

1. well then, maybe Kerry shouldn't have conceded so quickly

[TruthIsAll]

2. Could be a rope-a-dope. But I said the same thing.

In any case, the electors don't meet until mid-December, so....

[indyjones1938]

3. (nt)

[Kerry in 04]

4. Kerry won.

Its obvious to all who don't watch the right wing media bull shit!

[geek tragedy]

5. Sorry, but this sounds dangerously like someone who's not in the

reality-based community.

Exit polls don't elect anyone.

[ArkDem]

6. Yeah, Kerry landslide but in what dimension?

[Mz Pip]

7. Lovely speculation

but we need proof. Proof. Proof.

MzPip
:dem:

[tritsofme]

8. What I think happened

is that 75% of the undecideds did not break for the challenger, and there is no such things as an "incumbent rule"

That's all.