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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:12 PM
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Are We Going To Focus On VOTING FRAUD, or FIXING OUR PARTY?
Basically, are we going to focus our efforts on preventing
republicans from stealing the election, OR, changing our
party's philosophy?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:22 PM
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1. Both - we ain't George Bush and only able to focus on one thing at a time.
n/t
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:23 PM
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2. You took the words right out of my...um, keyboard!
:hi:
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:24 PM
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4. party needs minor tweaking, media is main problem
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:23 PM
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3. I think there should be 50+ million new BBV activists now. n/t
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:24 PM
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5. I have an idea
It is the working class stupid
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:25 PM
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6. We've gotta fix
the fraud before we can get anyone else elected.
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:26 PM
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7. We're Not Bush. We Can Do Two Things Simultaneously n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:27 PM
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8. Those things and much much more
Voter Fraud
New leadership in DLC
Impeachment actions
New effort at regulating honesty in political ads
Better campaign finance reform
Stopping the War(s)
2006 preparations to make a GOP bloodbath at the polls
Buying more TV and radio stations and changing to progressive programming

So much more, but this is a start...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:27 PM
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9. False Dilemma ...
Black vs White ....

Bifurcation .....

Whatever the name: you need to approach complex issues by defining ALL the problems, and solving each as needed ....

It isnt an 'either' proposition .... it is an 'and' type ...
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:28 PM
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10. We have to choose?
You can "fix" the party all you want, but if you are in a system where people will steal elections, it won't matter. I vote first to figure out if the election was stolen and if it was, bring the country to its knees.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:28 PM
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11. fraud
Focus on the fraud and everything else falls into place.

The fraud, the lying, cheating and stealing was the reason that so many new people got involved to begin with. Democratic party politics was a means to the end, not an end in itself.

We are 5 plus years into an attempted theft of our country by a group of ruthless tyrants. If we don't confront and stop them, it won't make any difference what we do with the party. If this election cycle has led to LESS suspicion and LESS militancy against them, then we truly are lost, and the loss is much, much bigger than a DLC candidate losing an election.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:30 PM
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12. Voter fraud
Voter Fraud has to be first, there is no point in fixing a party, if every election is going to be rigged, whats the point in voting?????
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:31 PM
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13. VOTER FRAUD we have a lot of information then we reform our party after
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:31 PM
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14. Both
If voting fraud is real then nothing we do will make a difference.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:38 PM
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15. Both
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:41 PM
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16. Nothing matters until we fix vote fraud. And the media.
What good is a perfect party if the votes aren't counted?
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:47 PM
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17. Focus on BBV. Nothing wrong with a liberal philosophy. No need to change.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 07:48 PM by TruthIsAll
It has served this country well for over 200 years.

Don't try to divert from the real issue.

We won. They lost.

It was stolen. Just like in 2000. Just like in 2002.

Dems are pussies. THAT'S the PROBLEM!
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