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Thu Nov-04-04 08:30 PM
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We need to get liberals from NY, CA and MA to move to WY, MT, SD and ND |
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Kerry won New York by 1.2 million votes. He won California by 1 million votes. He won Massachusetts by over 700,000 votes.
Bush won states like Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota and South Dakota by a huge margin in percentage terms, but he won each by less than 100,000 votes.
All we have to do is convince a half million liberals to relocate to these sparsely populated states. Not only will we add 12 electoral votes to our column, but we'll also get a bunch of new Democratic senators.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:32 PM
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1. you meant OH, FL, and MO/NV/CO right? |
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:34 PM
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2. In other words, an updated version of Green Acres |
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:37 PM
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I'm in Iowa, now -- if need be, I can stay here and start a little farm, instead of going back to Washington.
IA is almost Blue, anyway, and it's really kind of nice in Iowa City -- the county it is in is named "The People's Republic of Johnson County."
We could move and make it a bohemian metropolis.
I agree with this plan, though. Something has to be done -- something VERY unconventional.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:36 PM
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3. why please, you first! |
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and can you build me a neighboring house while you're at it?
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:37 PM
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4. Everyone is leaving out PA |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 08:37 PM by October
Do not forget us. We worked damned hard here...despite GWB's 44 visits to our state (Commonwealth), we were not swayed.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:37 PM
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6. This is sarcasm, right? |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 08:38 PM by TwilightZone
I can't really tell. I hope so, because you'll never get 100k people to move to SD, ND, WY, or MT.
Trust me, I grew up there. People move out; they don't move in.
Edit: not to mention that you'd be subjecting those half a million people to the intolerable conservativism that is the upper midwest. No one deserves that fate.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:38 PM
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7. I'm not sure that's the problem |
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given that Bush made gains in blue states as well.....
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:40 PM
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8. as a Californian born and bred |
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No thanks, but thanks anyway.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:49 PM
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9. Montana's already trending that way |
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Idaho needs a tourist industry or something.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:05 PM
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11. yep - Montana is becoming more and more liberal |
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A lot of people are moving here from CA due to the outdoors aspect. We now have a dem governor and one of our two senators is a dem. Bush and the gay marriage ban still won votes here, but things are changing.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:12 PM
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14. You need to drown the Bush-votin' ranchers in fancy coffee |
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:21 PM
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22. Clinton won it in '92... |
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Shows that at least one of the states out there has some hope.
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Thu Nov-04-04 08:51 PM
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10. Californians are already moving to Wyoming in droves |
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Cheyenne is a nice town and housing is incredibly cheap. It's an inexpensive place to settle down. I lived there pretty much for two decades.
Move about 150,000 liberals to Wyoming and liberals would control all levels of government in the state.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:07 PM
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12. We can't afford to risk losing California ever - the more Dems the better |
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Kerry ignored California completely - eventually, if the Democrats keep doing that long enough, it could damage us.
Don't think the Republicans aren't working on a way to take over California. If not that, they will try to split the electoral votes in the state with a constitutional amendment.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:10 PM
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13. Wouldn't it be better if democrats moved out of the states like |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 09:10 PM by lizzy
Texas into one of the swing states like OH? OH was only lost by 130,000 votes. There got to be millions of democrats in Texas.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:31 PM
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18. Good point. If a million Democrats moved from TX to OH, |
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:15 PM
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15. Ha ha, yeah great idea. Make those states that much easier to steal. |
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Divide and conquer right? How about we pick a designated state in the South and have all of the Southern Democrats move there instead?
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:19 PM
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16. Ummm. We don't "steal". They do |
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:33 PM
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20. Exactly my point. (the post was sarcastic). |
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I'm not buying the original poster's plan. Sounds like a RW wet-dream designed to divide-and-conquer us further. "Hey Kerry won CA by 1million votes, why don't 500k Dems move to 5 different states." I call bullshit.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:22 PM
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17. No. It's too late for all of that. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 09:23 PM by Azure
The reverse needs to happen. We need liberals to move to blue states, and we need to give red states exactly what they've been asking for. Give them all the tax cuts they can stand. Let them put statues of Jesus in the schools. Let them abolish the Dept of Education. Let them have ALL of it, as long as we can keep our state tax money in our own blue states. Cut federal taxes to a mininum and make it up at the state level.
Give them EXACTLY what they want, and watch how fast they start to see what their own policies do to them. Watch how quickly they figure out that things are better in the blue states, even if gays are married there. The red states ASKED FOR IT. Let them have what they want. From this point on, we should be "the party of rope." Keep giving them as much rope as they can take. Eventually, you know what they'll do with it.
A new Federalism. It's the only answer we have left.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:32 PM
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19. I live here for a reason |
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I fucking loathe repukes.
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:19 PM
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21. Yeah sure but, once you start drinkin' the water there... |
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,,,anyway, pretty funny post.
Actually, Santa Fe has become a nice Demo outpost. Same for Boulder and a lot of other Western mountain places. I say we need to work on Colorado and Nevada. But like I said, don't drink the water! :)
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