catholic vote

[Arlington]

The catholic bishops did everything they could to deliver the Catholic vote to Bush. Apparently they succeeded in
swinging him 7 or 8 percent more of it than he got last time. Certainly enough of it in Ohio and Iowa to push those states into the red column. I myself heard a priest in Iowa practically reading RNC message points verbatim from the pulpit.

They did it down here in Virginia too, but were cleverer about it, making it more implicit than explicit.

I have been paying $100 a month on a $5,000 construction initiative pledge to the Diocese of Arlington. I still owe $3,900.

I have decided to let them get the rest of it from George W. Bush.

[davepc]

1. big dissconnect between us and them has formed

Where before they were on our side because they realized we were the best hope for social justice in America.

The believed it so much they practically looked the other way toward Roe v Wade in the late 70's.

But we drifted from our economic message and started to go hard against the grain with their social message.

They're leaving us for the fundies because we abandoned the rural/union man who is the base of the catholic church, and instead are dominated by no retreat/no surrender social issue absolutists.

[asianjoanne]

2. Hahaha!

Well, the Catholic Church didn't sway MY vote. I was a first-time voter, newly registered, first time I ever voted in a general election

AND I VOTED FOR KERRY!!!!!

I am pro-choice AND pro-gay marriage. Who are WE to DICTATE who someone can and cannot marry? And who are we to tell a woman what they CAN and CANNOT do to their own bodies (and their unborn FETUS)?

A lot of Catholics may be damning me to hell now for what I've just admitted, but you know what? I could care less. I would rather spend eternity in hell than to agree with controlling someone else's decisions they want to make in their lives.

[davepc]

3. and another person surrenders a previously large segment of our base

to republicans!

rural voters, union guys, catholics.

Hey, FDR...fuck you for building that movement in the 30's. WE DONT NEED THEM.

A national Party no more.