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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:45 AM
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This is why we lost



Take back the heartland. Take back the south. Take back the midwest.


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Azure Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:57 AM
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1. Wow, that's ugly.
:puke:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:58 AM
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2. If you resized those counties according to population
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:01 AM
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3. the middle of the country and too much of the south
is still too red in that map also.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:02 AM
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4. no, this is why
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:07 AM
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5. Wow. Rural areas are backwards and heavily Republican.
Stop the presses.

There is a big time cultural divide in this country. And the red areas are on the *wrong* side of that divide and of history.

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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:08 AM
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6. lets round them up, put them in camps, and shoot them then eh?
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:09 AM
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8. Yep, that's what they want to do to us.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:11 AM
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9. No, just secede from them.
New York and Massachusetts barely belong on the same planet as Alabama and Missippi. They certainly don't belong under the same national government.

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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:09 AM
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7. Whew! Great map!
Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, and Alaska without a single blue county. Hawaii and a few NE states without a single red county.

Amazing! Thanks for the post!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:25 AM
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10. That is like all the places with lights
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:34 AM
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11. Why is that strip in Alabama blue?
Can we get some info on this from Alabama DUers?
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:35 AM
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12. Geez
Starting at South Texas and heading directly north, you could go all the way to South Dakota before hitting one, single, blue county.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:43 AM
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13. really misleading
The world is not black and white. The electorate is not homogenously red and blue. This implies a division and a segregation that is misleading and overstated. There are only a couple of trumped up and mis-represnted issues that divide the electorate and lead to this bitter partisanship.

The tradition of liberalism calls for us to educate people, to find common ground, and to see shades of gray and nuances. Dividing and conquering is in the interests of the junta, not in the best interests of the people red or blue.

I think that certain rabid elements in the Republican camp, including the people in this dangerous and dishonest administration, are trying to stir up hatred and divisiveness.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:00 AM
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14. Sorry.. that map is skewed..seriously
there are two other map threads that accurately ahow the gradient colors of the US.. Most of that RED area in the above map, is inhabited by tumbleweeds, snakes, lizards, cows, rocks, dirt and a fw repubes tossed in every so often...

To point it out.. here are a few maps..

the slave state comparison, actually matches up "better" :(









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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:16 AM
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15. But here is the most interesting thing that I have noticed
People say terrorism is the most important issue, and they want to feel safe from terror attacks.

Fine.

Whatever.

BUT - Consider the places most likely to be hit by a terror attack.

Top five would probably include

New York City,
Washington, DC
Los Angeles
Chicago
San Francisco

And, I can't help but notice that they all went for Kerry.

Why is that? Maybe because people actually at risk know that Bush and his reckless attitude puts us at risk? Or maybe they recognize that Bush isn't really protecting us, since he is most of the time either campaigning or vacationing, and has failed to capture bin Laden after 3 years despite all his rhetoric.

Why is it that people in rural America are so easily led? These people honestly believe that terrorists will blow up their town water tower if Kerry gets in office...

How can we make them recognize what is so obvious to the people who actually were victims on 9/11??

BTW, yes, there was a terror attack in middle America in the nineties. But, if I remember right, it was perpetrated by a right wing white guy, an American citizen no less, who was subsequently caught by the Clinton administration and punished for his crimes.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:39 AM
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16. Error Alert! Bush got only TWO counties in Maine, not THREE
Your map is simply wrong about Maine. It show Bush winning Somerset, Piscataquis, and Washington counties.

Kerry won Somerset and Washington counties. That means that you need to change both the westernmost and easternmost red splotches to blue.

Bush won only Piscataquis and Penobscot counties. And the Maine Sunday Telegram reports Bush's margin of victory in those two counties as "slight": http://news.mainetoday.com/apwire/D864KB500-307.shtml

Interestingly, Piscataquis county has the smallest population in Maine: a grand total of 17,235 people live there.


That's just Maine. I wonder how many other inaccuracies that map contains...


The thing about those red-blue maps is that on the whole, it is the blue areas that contain nearly all of America's people, and the red areas tend to be broad stretches of nothin' much in the way of actual Homo sapiens. Quackgrass doesn't vote!
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