I am fucking disgusted with myself (for the OK dems).

[drhilarius]

Earlier tonight I posted a thread in which I referred to Oklahomans as "Dumb okies". DWolper replied in another thread with a thoughtful and polite critique. Rather than admitting that I was wrong, I decided to let my anger get to me. Look at what my anger brought to DU:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1325884&mesg_id=1325884>

Very productive, yes? Because of one thoughtless, angry comment i have reduced DU'ers to sniping at each other viciously. Oh sure, that's what this forum is for, but that doesn't matter. What matters is I did this. I reduced you, whom I've considered to be friends over these last few months, to hating one another.

Our anger is strong right now, friends, but it is misdirected.

I look back over the other things I posted, and they seem almost sub-human in how callous they sound. This is not who I am. I know this is not who we are.

I'm just angry and in shock right now, and I never meant to hurt any of you, I never meant to make you hate one another. That's what it is you know-hate.

I became a democrat because deep down, beneath all the cynicism and sarcasm and bitterness I feel sometimes, I really do love people and I want the best for them. I want the best from myself, but i failed tonight.

I forgot Barak Obama's words, the ones that nearly brought me to tears. We have gay friends in the red states, and we worship a powerful god in the blue states. Well, I don't, but that's another thread. The point is Blue state/ red State is an artificial division, created by the media, the republicans. Have we forgotten that's always how the powerful win, by dividing and conquering?

Well, I for one don't want to have any part in it. I need to take a break in the lounge maybe, or just take a break all together, so i can seriously reassess what my anger and hate has made me. I'm sorry guys. And to all you Oklahomans, my deepest apologies. I hope if I'm ever in OKC or Tulsa we can have a drink.

It ain't my will or my spirit, but my fucking heart that's broken. We've only got ourselves in this world now.

[tavalon]

1. Heartbroken

Yeah, me too and I've spewed some vile in the last couple of days too. You are right, we need to not spew it at one another here at DU. We're the good guys.

[drhilarius]

3. We are, and it's time to start the good fight..

[Tweed]

2. Beautiful post

I have posted some things I've resented too. I think we all have. This election hit us all hard. We thought we had it won, we thought we were going to get a majority in the Senate. We were way off and when we were, something else HAD to be at fault. "I did my part, so the young people, Unions, pro-choice, homosexual, teachers, poor, party establishment, 527s, etc. must not have done theirs!" I think we all need to realize that we all did our job. The Republicans did theirs better. We need to get together to figure out how to beat them. Our anger should be directed at Republicans, not red staters in general. You are so right.

It also takes a lot of courage to have a main thread in a forum such as this say "I am fucking disgusted with myself" and send out an apology to all the people you might have offended. I salute friend. You must be one of the better DUers on here, I'll look out for your posts in the future.

Now, let's add our anger together and put it in the direction of the Republicans!

[drhilarius]

4. I intend to walk proudly into Democratic HQ on monday...

to start this all over again.

[DinahMoeHum]

5. I'm not an Oklahoman, but I think you should check this site out.

www.palfound.net

The Progressive Alliance Foundation

There ARE progressives in Oklahoma!

BTW, the executive director of this project, Andrew Rice, lost his brother on 9/11, at the World Trade Center. You can also read more about his stuff on the website for September 11 Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
www.peacefultomorrows.org

I think you'll find this stuff ver-r-r-y interesting.

:kick:

[QC]

6. Thank you! n/t

[President Jesus]

7. Here's the problem: you are in part to blame

I know that sounds harsh, but just hear me out.

This election has made it clear to me that red-state Dems cannot depend on blue staters to come into your states and canvas and do GOTV efforts. I would suggest that we probably made matters worse in your states because all of us blue staters provide THE fuel these culture warriors thrive on.

You guys need to find a way to win in your states. We obviously can't do it for you, not in today's climate. Need money? Fine, we can do that. But the organization has to come from within.

What I take from this election is that a large chucnk of red staters were not voting for Bush...they were voting against US.