Why don't we use the term "Red Stater" like they use "Liberal?"

[MikeG]

Develop an absurd stereotype like they have.

[RafterMan]

1. Northern liberals

already have absurd stereotypes about red staters.

It hasn't been helpful.

[MikeG]

2. We need to push it harder. It works for the asshole Republicans.

[Sterling]

24. What about a northern liberal who was born and raised in the south?

Can they have absurd stereotypes too? I have some but I don't think they are too absurd.

[Flammable Materials]

3. Start referring to them as "The Reds".

They'll hate that.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED.

[meow2u3]

21. Great idea!

Throw their own anti-Communist Cold War rhetoric right back in their faces. :think:

[Sterling]

25. Yes I agree that one is good. spread the meme.

Some others would be nice. Fundie is good I think but we need something that can be used by pundits and pols like they use "liberal".

You can't really use conservative against them because they really are not very conservative. They are radical theocrats.

If you ad the idea that W will drive this counrtry so far in the dirt the US may well end up going commie to the insult Red sounds really good.

[TedsGarage]

4. Exactly

I've been telling people that we need to make the terms "right-winger," "Texan" and "fundamentalist" dirty words, just as Republicans have done to "Massachusetts" and "liberal."

Guys, we have a base now -- geographical, cultural and electoral. That's something we couldn't claim after Mondale and Dukakis. Let's nurture it, cater to it, and grow it, just as the Republicans have done to theirs.

[blondeatlast]

5. Because I'm a red stater.

On edit: I think I get your point a bit, though. There needs to be a degree of shame to voting for Bush.

There is one in my office who is absolutely a stereotype of what you think they are. Fat, lazy, uneducated, homophobic, and blinded by religion. She belches out loud, snorts, complains about her health, has no health insurance, and you guessed it:

She voted for Bunny on "moral principles."

[funkybutt]

6. I'm a red stater

and obviously I don't care to be lumped into a category with all the fascists. I worked my ass off for almost a year in an attempt to turn this state blue. Actually it seems to me that you Blue Staters have it pretty easy. What do you have to work for? Do you expect all of us Red Staters who are working to turn their states blue to just give up and move to a blue state? If that's the case, then we'll never gain back any ground.

My Parish (county) gave 151K votes to Kerry as opposed to 40K for Bush. I think we did pretty damn well. I'm proud of the work we did and sorry that nobody really gives a shit.

[Flammable Materials]

7. Calling them "Reds" doesn't denigrate the states themselves.

I live in a Red State myself. Tennessee, to be exact.

[Xipe Totec]

32. Not Red Staters, Just REDS

With the negative allusions to:

- Commies
- One Party System
- Repression
- Intolerance

Just start talking about the Reds and their one party system.

Oh, and their power base is the Union of State Sponsored Repressives, or USSR for short.

Paint the Republicans in Red and associate red with repression.

[MikeG]

8. You are not a red stater. Your state is red. Being nice has failed.

[liberal_in_GA]

9. The notion is right on

but the term "red stater" is too broad. We need to push a phrase like "radical right" or "extremist right"--something to connote that Shrub and his cronies are out of the mainstream.

[MikeG]

10. We have to make them an object of derision.

[blondeatlast]

11. How about "Moral Moron"? I think it says it all very nicely. nt

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

27. Read Suskind's article "Without a Doubt"

You have to pay for it at this point, but it will let you know they actually thrive on the fact that we think they're morons.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30F1EF93A5F0C748DDDA90994DC404482&incamp=archive:search

[bones_7672]

12. And, because they'd be PROUD of it???

[Mike L]

13. I got tired of hearing, "John Kerry and the liberals in Congress"

on Chimp's TV ads. I kept waiting for the Kerry campaign to put out an ad saying, "George Bush and the extremists in Congress," but it never happened.

[DS1]

14. But we're certainly not allowed to call them rednecks

because that's insulting.

Fuck that, just call them Idiots

[Cogito ergo doleo]

15. The Red Right?

That has a certain ring to it.

[meow2u3]

23. I can just imagine the ads we can put out

"George W. Bush and the Reds in Congress" support totalitarian, Stalinist measures such as black box vote fraud.....

[Cats Against Frist]

35. And more true, than not

They're big-government, right-wing authoritarians, well on their way to being big-government, right-wing totalitarians -- "reds" would be a very appropriate name for them.

[Tyler Durden]

16. I'm calling them RED STATE REACTIONARIES

RSR for singular or plural.

Pings on the Pissant, not the exceptional free thinker.

[Kahuna]

17. It's divisive, petty and stupid.

Not the way to gain support.

[davepc]

18. because telling people to go fuck themselves

is the worst way to get them to vote for you

[fishwax]

19. Then you're attacking a person instead of a concept

or a philosophy. Making liberal a dirty word was so successful because then people didn't want to be associated with the word, and it is easy to dissassociate yourself from such a word. It's not so easy to dissassociate yourself from a state. (I speak from experience as an Oklahoman who would like nothing more than to sever any implied philosophical ties with this red-state mentality.)

[Tom Rinaldo]

20. Because it is blatantly divisive and discriminatory

Every thing we hate about our opponents but worse. People have minimal control over where they live, most people aren't free to just pick up all roots nor should they have to. A civil War mentality will not win us the Presidency..

[goclark]

22. I still don't believe that Red is all Red

I truly want to believe that there are not that many Brain Deads in the United States.

I may be naive but I still believe that they messed with the votes in the so called red states.

[Skittles]

26. the very idea that SKITTLES is a "RED STATER"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[MikeG]

29. Kick someone's ass, Skittles. Please?

[Skittles]

33. THE LIST IS SO FREAKING LONG RIGHT NOW

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[MikeG]

36. "A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first ASS-KICKING!!!!"

[Skittles]

37. I'll start with my friend -age 50 - just called to active duty

when I asked him who he voted for there was a dead silence and then this: I DIN'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

[icnorth]

28. Reds:

When a suitable name has been coined perhaps the term of office could be referred to as the "jackboot agenda".

[Gold Metal Flake]

30. Red necks in Red States.

We need to reach back to the pre-Foxworthy meaning of Red Neck. Watch Easy Rider if you need help. Or watch the documentary Blood In The Face. Or read up on the murders of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner.

[SaintLouisBlues]

31. Using "red-stater" gets too many people off the hook

What about the 40% in blue states that voted for these assholes?

Labeling people may make us feel better, but it will not convince anyone to see the light. It's more likely to make people put on their sunglasses.

[PSU84]

34. Blue State Unity!

Fuck the Red States!