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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:46 AM
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Not tin foil hat stuff - they really, really stole it
See Gahanna thread in the voting problems section. It was DU that made this AP story below happen. But the point is that this, and the threads on the Flordia ballots showing huge (and I mean HUGE) numbers of DEMS supposedly voting for Bush in very Dem counties is indicative of wholesale theft of this election! My partner spent hours crunching numbers last night and there is no doubt - they stole FL and they probably stole Ohio as well. Trust me, we are NOT the conspiracy theorist types, and even on Wed I posting here saying "take off the tin foil hat" to people who automatically assumed it was stolen.

But it was. It really was.

I don't know how to post a spreadsheet here, but here is a summary of how they did Florida:

Summary

-- In 13 of 15 touchscreen voting counties in Florida, Dems gained over what would be expected looking at just registration percentages –more than just Dems voted for Kerry in these counties

-- But in only 7 of 52 optical scanner voting counties (15%), Dems gained over what would be expected looking at registration percentages - this seems a little odd

-- In the touchscreen counties, the average gain was 8% over what you would expect based on Dem registration, including all 15 counties

--In the optical scanner counties, the average loss was 16.6% under what you would expect based on dem registration, including all 52 counties

-- If you apply the 8% average plus the expectations based on registration that was seen in the touchscreen counties to the optical scanner counties where we saw losses in the Dem column, it's a total of 281,143.

If you add this number to Kerry’s total, and subtract this number from Bush’s…

Method
Bush Votes
Kerry Votes

Subtotal
Touchscreen
1,845,876
1,982,210

Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,950,213
1,445,675

Adjustment

-281,143
+281,143

Corrected Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,668,730
1,727,158

Corrected Total
All Methods
3,514,606 - Bush
3,709,368 - Kerry

And guess what, when you correct, it matches the exit polls!

And they are simply going to play off every instance in which they were caught as an "oops, sorry, we'll fix that. Don't know how this could have happened!" Except Florida, where they are completely getting away with it.

If we take this shit, we are purely stupid. Right now, today, we need to spread the word to every blog, every newspaper, and every politician we know personally that we aren't going to give another dime to any Dem candidate until they fix our voting system.

We need to start a movement, and we need to start it today, because the wheels grind slowly. Are you with me?

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/10103910.htm

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A computer error with a voting machine cartridge gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in a Gahanna precinct.

Franklin County's unofficial results gave Bush 4,258 votes to Democratic challenger John Kerry's 260 votes in Precinct 1B. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.

Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, said Bush received 365 votes there. The other 13 voters who cast ballots either voted for other candidates or did not vote for president.

Damschroder said he received some calls Thursday from people who saw the error when reading the list of poll results on the election board's Web site.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:08 AM
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1. I believe you!

Why is 1/2 of DU asleep!
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:37 AM
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2. I believe it too....
but where and how to start?
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:55 AM
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3. kick
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:04 AM
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4. Kick
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:08 AM
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5. My Humble Apologies.
I skewered you pretty good in the tin-foil hat thread you mentioned above. I am sorry that I did so. I was a dick.

Jay
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