Kerry's Map vs. Gore's Map

[THUNDER HANDS]

How Kerry did, county by county:



How Gore did, county by county:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. Well, in Colorado Maine and Vermont we did do better

we lost ground everywhere else, but of course, Al was from Tennesee so that whole region went pFFFFFFFFFFFT!

[mdguss]

3. Not true, we did better in the soutwest and upper plains:

Montana, South Dakota, Nevada, Colorado, Arizona...good signs at the county level there. The Democratic Party is on the verge of a major break through. I thought it would come this year. I think it will come four years from now. When it comes, whoever is the beneficary of it, will owe a lot to John Kerry. He made our party credible of national security issues again. That is a big, big accomplishment, and it reverses something that has hurt us since the 1972 election.

[exsoccermom]

30. American Indian areas came through for Kerry

Looks like SD, MT and AZ are mostly counties that are all or mostly covered by American Indian reservation/trust lands. We did well in Tucson (Pima County) but did not pick up Maricopa (Phoenix). Montana counties that went for Kerry all contained large areas of reservation/trust lands except for Butte-Silver Bow and Anaconda-Deer Lodge. I think all SD is counties that are wholly or mostly American Indian reservation/trust lands.

[ClintonTyree]

7. Or DIEBOLD did better...............

one or the other. I still can't believe that there are that many ignorant people in this country. People that have been lied to right to their faces AND THEY KNOW IT, yet would overwhelmingly vote for that POS. I'm no longer part of this country, my country left me.

[mrgorth]

2. Jesus!

Mississippi, New Mexico and CO look bluer than PA!

[WilliamPitt]

4. Right near the Mississippi River

Whatr is it about being near water that makes people smarter?

[Rockholm]

8. We were talking about that yesterday at work.

The theory is that water = trade, which = access to the world. Think about it. William, you are here in Massachusetts. LOok how liberal the "fishing town" of Gloucester is. Fishermen, as salty as they are, generally respect those who are different. They themselves were "outsiders" to a degree in Italy and Portugal. They are providers who understand the delicate balance of life.

I would keep expounding but work interferes. More to come......

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

37. I think being black is what makes them smarter nt

[MsTryska]

41. Yeah that missisippi river area is pretty interesting.

are those riverbank areas predominantly black?


it might be worthwhile to get in their and really work the riverbanks and expand those areas, so there's a solid seam of blue running through the country from north to south smack dab in the midwest.


maybe riverboat campaigns!

[IrateCitizen]

5. The "Alabama" section of PA is always solid-red

But all the people live in the Philly, Pittsburgh and Scranton-Wilkes Barre areas (the blue zones).

[Phillycat]

15. I love the PA map.

I live in Philadelphia, where we and Pittsburgh told the rest of the state to fuck off and hand-delivered 21 electoral votes to JK. We didn't fuck around here. We did what we were supposed to do and it worked.

[Roland99]

21. Most of PA is undeveloped mountains.

[MissouriTeacher]

6. Great

I can't wait until right-wingers start tossing around that map with the words 'No Mandate?' at the top. :eyes:

I prefer the map key to read: Blue = Kerry, Red = inbred.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

17. Except that a great portion of the "red" is barren land.

With little population density. I'd love a population density overlay to this map.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

39. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2600289

[Touchdown]

18. You just tell them dirt and weeds can't vote.

and get over it! No Mandate. ALALALALALALA I can't HEAR YOU! LALALALALALALA!

[Carson]

42. And yet we wonder why we're sometimes called elitists.

Yes, let's just label everyone who doesn't agree with us to be "dumb" and "inbred".

They are true believers and/or the misinformed, but not stupid.

I know this because I live in one of those "red" states...Kentucky.

[Walt Starr]

9. We ignore this data to our mortal peril.

We also analyze this data based upon false assumptions to our mortal peril.

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. what does it tell you Walt?

[Walt Starr]

14. My inital reaction was to the change in the Illinois map

See post 13.

[Walt Starr]

16. Want to see something telling about New Mexico?

Look closely at how the Republicans have made inroads into that state. INCREDIBLE VULNERABILITY to the Democrats there at all levels.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. i'm looking at it

it appears we lost one county there.

But we picked up one or two in Arizona right next door.

[Walt Starr]

24. Yep, Arizona is definitely vulnberable.

More in depth data on a precinct level is required for adequate analysis.

[Jersey Devil]

11. Based on this map we should irrigate the Mississippi

There's all blue along it! Widen it and that should do the trick.

[okieinpain]

12. but this stuff is misleading, what if a county only went red by 10

votes, 2000 folks vote, but 10 puts bush on top, there is still 990 people that support kerry. all that red doesn't mean that it's totally bush.

[Walt Starr]

13. Something to take note of about Illinois

We are losing ground there. Seriously, distribution of our core constituency has become dramatically condensed over the past four years. At least five or six counties that were blue in 2000 became red in 2004. That's a significant change over the past four years in this solidly blue state.

Don't think we're vulnerable in Illinois? Guess again. Key indicator will be the state legislature in 2006.

[tritsofme]

40. I have a horrible feeling the Gubanatorial primary is going to be bloody

Blago hasn't played ball with the Daley/Madigan machine, and Lisa wants to be governor.

And then of course we hear rumors that Blago wants to run for President.

A moderate Republican could probably pull it off in 2006.

[RT Atlanta]

19. Would love to see

the locations of major state colleges and universities added to the map to see how the counties that went for Kerry may have tied in with those that actually voted for him.

I was particualry noticing GA and AL and places where UGA located (Clarke County) and Auburn (Lee County) both seem to have gone for Kerry in an otherwise red state. Also, it seems that the counties that went for Kerry are part of larger metropolitan areas, which typically seem to have the more educated folks residing there.

[MissouriTeacher]

20. Missouri is becoming red, red, red

Major differences there. My own county voted for Gore by 1 vote in 2000. This year, Bush won by a 7,000+ vote margin. :puke:

[Stuckinthebush]

23. It looks like Yellowstone voted for Kerry

I guess Booboo and Yogi aren't anti-gay bigots.

[Walt Starr]

25. That's not Yellowstone

That's Jackson Hole in Teton county.

[Stuckinthebush]

26. Oops

So Booboo and Yogi are bigot-bears!

Bastards.

[AntiCoup2K4]

27. Of course they aren't

Anybody can tell those two were a couple!

[Stuckinthebush]

29. I never thought about that!

Straight-blindness strikes again!

[sonias]

28. America is actually purple

This map gives you a better idea by strength of vote Dem vs Repub
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

I didn't want to link to the image because it is very large, so do a copy and paste, but do go look at it. This country is purple, pretty evenly divided 50 - 50. It's all about drawing those districts so that you get that 1-2% edge to win.

Sonia

[Stuckinthebush]

32. But the question is...

Is America more reddish-purple, or more violet?

[liberalpragmatist]

33. Wow, that's a great map

n/t

[sonias]

31. delete

Nevermind fixed the post above.

Sonia

[exsoccermom]

35. Would be interesting to crosstab the voting data

with other data (race, education level, hispanic origin, etc.) at the county level and display. (Maybe even able to pop up a state with a pop distribution map below. Hum, fun.)

[HughBeaumont]

34. The blue Ohio areas

Are where all of the big cities are. The only exception being Athens county, where Miami U is . . . down southeast there by West VA. Pretty much all of those red areas are hypnotic wastelands of desolate country, acres of farmland and sparse small towns.

Now you can see what we were up against.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

36. Kerry counties with population topography here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2600289

[Freddie Stubbs]

38. It only shows who won each county, but now by what percentage