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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:53 PM
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hey guys. Are we seriously going to fight!!!
Ok fine, John Kerry has allready conceded, but this is bigger than him.. Instead of sitting here complaining? What are we going to do in the approximate 10 Days we have to uncover the fraud that we believe exists. I dont live in Fl or OH but willing to do my part with number crunching and phone calls. I was absolutely devastated by tuesdays initial result. I dont want to believe its over. If we are convinced that we have been diebolded or undercounted in any way, lets fight. Guys please dont give up yet, a concession is not legally binding and no one would question Kerry if we provided him with actual proof of fraud. Its several thousands of us. Lets get to work
I am not being dramatic but I dont feel we will have much of a country to fight for in 4 years.
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:58 PM
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1. Yes, dammit fight now!
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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:01 PM
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2. well i am juss waiting for
my marching orders. Did someone on here find those 4000 votes in franklin county? Did someone on here figure out the florida actual votes compared to expected votes.?? I think we should cross refrence the 2000 and 2004 totals county by county in both states where can we get all that from ?
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:14 PM
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3. Yes, most of the stuff in the media now
first posted here. I don't know where you get that info, but you're right - that is exactly what needs to be done.
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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:21 PM
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4. whats odd is most even on here
seem to feel cheated but have given up allready. We need to get the information then get prominent people to back us. I would say the people in Fl and Oh would be more helpful. Only tale i can tell is my uncle in palm beach county tried to vote for kerry and it showed up bush. I assumed they finally got it to register as a kerry vote but thats the kind of thing thats troubling. I am willing to devote most of my time for the next 10 days or so to this cause. i guess to many people are looking ahead. I have the sad feeling that terrosits will get the upperhand in a overwhelming way within the next 4 years. are we in for marshal law?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:32 PM
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5. I'm in Florida, but I don't know what is being organized here
I'd do something, but it seems as tho everyone is running in circles.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:45 PM
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8. try visiting this site. it's a good place to start.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:43 PM
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7. frankly
The idea that most have given up with regards to Kerry is probably true, and in my opinion, it's because they feel Kerry has given up on them. He conceded too quickly, most of them feel. We had to find out he was conceding by watching the news. Many feel that we should have been emailed hours before it even got into the press. Since then, the entire Democratic party has gone silent. What? We weren't here, didn't donate, didn't work hard enough for them? And now that our candidate conceded, we don't exist for them anymore?

And then they wonder why out of the last seven elections, we only won 2.

We were there for them. You don't abandon your base. But many people feel abandoned. The loss and the resulting silence are taking an emotional toll.
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:57 PM
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9. I feel they abandoned us too.
Unless they are fighting under the radar and that is why it is so quiet.
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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:59 PM
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10. remember for us
its not about kerry. we are going to be selfish and fight for ourselves and our interests. proving that what happened on tuesday ( and early voting) was fradulent would be helpful. I dont think Edwards wanted to give up but of course with Elizabeth in bad shape right now he is probably double-stunned
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:41 PM
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6. fighting here in MD
I don't have much resource though. More today than yesterday, more likely tomorrow, but times a wastin'
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:03 PM
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11. 10 days????
Do we only have 10 days??? Is that when it becoems offical, heck the media wont help because they will be all over, Yassar Afarat and Iraq, thats not a time, I hope someone gots something, I cant stress enough how there is no comeback if Bush gets a second term, this is it, here an now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:26 PM
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17. no, that's how long it takes people to forget
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:06 PM
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12. Here is some easy action to take that may make the difference...
Randi Rhodes....is encouraging that we each donate at least $1, $5 or whatever one can spare to BBV. Said the site keeps crashing so do a Snail Mail to the following addy:
Black Box Voting
P.O. Box25562
Seattle, Wa

also she said to send a fax to Ralph Nader at (202)265-0092
Address letter to Nader.....saying "yes, please challenge the election results in New Hampshire"...sign your name and state "Black Box Voting Activist".

Just Do It,
then
Spread it!
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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:28 PM
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13. we won NH
why would he challenge there? we should have him challenge in florida?
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:21 PM
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14. Why would she recommend Nader?
He was a total ass to her on her own show, and their call ended on unfriendly terms. Not only that, Nader took GOP money during his campaign, and then came asking for Dem money to run negative ads against Shrub.

WTF side of the political fence is he on, anyway?
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:22 PM
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15. I say YES!!!!!!
Clinton says quit whining.
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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:24 PM
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16. bill clinton
said we were whining?
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