Mark. Warner. Repeat After me. Mark. Warner.

[ruggerson]

That is, if you would like to actually win an election.

[Placebo]

1. Evan. Bayh. Repeat After me. Evan. Bayh.

That is, if you would like to actually win an election.

[Renew Deal]

5. I think I would take Warner over Bayh

But I would have to see them both in action.

[AntiCoup2K4]

12. Do we have to see pictures of that puke bastard in every thread?

:puke:

[hippiechick]

19. Dan Qayle/George W. Redux

Empty Head.
Empty Suit.
Living off Daddy's Legacy.

Sound Familiar ?

JUST SAY NO TO BAYH !!!!!


:hippie:

[Bush was AWOL]

28. His family definitely has the right look

[JohnKleeb]

37. Youre kidding me

Bayh. I'd love Warner personally. Warner is a good guy, nearly upset a three term republican in '96. Great guy. Can't stand Bayh.

[Zynx]

50. "You say Bayh, I say Why?"

[Skwmom]

2. Sorry but the guy just doesn't have "it."

[ruggerson]

33. And Bush does?

Warner's got the right message, the right skillset and the perfect resume. And he's extraordinarily popular.

We're not looking for the next Clara Bow.

[TheWebHead]

3. warner can't win our primary

Bayh could, though we have to get the Hillary can't win in the bible belt meme in the minds of liberals, which I think can be done in Iowa & New Hampshire primaries. Warner is a moderate conservative, pretty much exactly in the same position as McCain

McCain:




Warner:



and Bayh:

[DaveinMD]

yes he can

Just like Clinton did against the likes of Tom Harkin and Bob Kerrey.

[JohnnyCougar]

4. Where'd you get those maps?

[HootieMcBoob]

6. Wes Clark n/t

[FrenchieCat]

7. Clark/Warner....

The War on Terra will still be used to frightened the sheeples in 2008....bet on that.

Warrior at top of the ticket
Gentleman at the bottom.

We sweep the south!

[HootieMcBoob]

10. Clark is from Arkansas

Don't forget that, he's also from the south.

[Thrill]

8. Mike Easley-Mike Easley Repeat that

[redherring]

9. Most definitely...Warner can win Virginia

If he is nominated, he will more than likely be our next president. Trust me on that.

[BluegrassDem]

13. Warner could give us VA

That's 13 EV's that could make a difference. We don't have to win the entire South. A state or two is all we need, combined with the west, midwest, and northeast. We did pretty good in VA anyways. I think Kerry did best in VA than any other southern state besides Florida.

I'm not sure even Bayh could carry Indiana. That could be a stretch, but interesting to think about though.

[redherring]

17. Yep, I'm from VA and the local news was saying that

Fairfax(Northern VA) went blue for the first time in 40 years. With Alexandria, Arlington and Fairfax combined, Kerry was leading Bush by 75,000 votes.
Mark Warner is a very popular governor. There is no doubt that he'll win VA, if the Republicans don't elect one of our Republican senators as their nominee that is ;). Then it would be a tossup, probably.

[Joe the Revelator]

15. There is NO doubt that warner would win Virginia....

the latest poll has him with a 70% approval rating throughout the state.

[AntiCoup2K4]

11. Howard.Dean Howard.Dean Howard.Dean Howard.Dean

Repeat until it sinks in and we can save what's left of this party.

[FrenchieCat]

16. Heard a commercial.....

where he was using his scream to advertise something or other. Didn't seem too dignified to me. No more New Englanders from Yale at the top of the ticket.

Those "Scream" videos have not been erased.

Dean against a Jeb Bush or a McCain.......while the war on Terra that scares all of the sheeples is still going on (and it will)will only lead us back to slaughter with Dean on the ticket. Sorry!

[Kahuna]

22. Nope. Warner gives us VA and Clark gives us AK..

Vermont has what? 2 RVs?

[Thrill]

14. Mike easley

Has the charisma like Clinton. Loved by the Republicans snd Democrats in his state. Edwards can't in NC. Easley CAN

[JohnnyCougar]

29. Where did you get that map?

[xequals]

32. Those look like they are from

http://www.ontheissues.org

You have to click on a candidate and scroll down.

[sampsonblk]

18. Repeat after me: DEMOCRATIC wing of the Dem party

Let's run a real Dem who actually believes in what this party stands for and will campaign hard to convince people that we are right.

[FrenchieCat]

21. oh no.....

Are you suggesting another New England Yale graduate.....

Hope not!

[Moderate Dem]

25. What do you mean, "A real Dem"?

You mean like a Democrat that supports the working man, equal rights and health care, or a NeoLiberal Democrat?

I'd vote for a moderate like Mark Warner in a second.

You wanna lose again? Pick another far-leftie.

[sampsonblk]

26. You are a little late, aren't you?

We've had that discussion a few hundred times already. This far-leftie crap is not the issue. The issue is actually standing up for what we really believe in, as opposed to running as near-Repubs.

Did you ever hear Bush brag about how many times he has opposed HIS own party?

[Moderate Dem]

30. Who do you mean by "we"?

[sampsonblk]

34. We = those who have participated at DU

You are late. And that left-right discussion is boring.

[JohnKleeb]

38. making it easier for kids to get in to college makes you not a real dem?

[GirlinContempt]

41. Well you know, you have a couple of options...

Alienate people from the floundering party, or suck it up and move on. The best way you're going to convince people that you're right is by properly informing them of issues, and given the media in the US, you have a long road ahead of you. Hell, based on the election ALONE you have a long road ahead of you. So get on that and off the back of hardworking dems in tough-to-win states that don't match up with you're image of a Party.

[sampsonblk]

54. Huh?

Properly informing people of the issues is the only way to go, in my opinion. If there's a long road ahead, then I suggest we get moving.

[Kahuna]

20. Mark Warner. Mark Warner. Mark Warner.

:D

[Azure]

23. Mark. Warner. Mark. Warner. Mark. Warner. Mark. Warner.

I don't know about some of you, but I like winning. I'm silly like that.

[Doomsayer13]

24. He's a fantastic choice

he has a GREAT record to run on, far far better than Bush's when he was gov.

[Kahuna]

27. No doubt, our guy (Warner) will be running against that vile Jeb...

We need something to damage him so that he won't be able to run. We need a private dick on his tail starting right now. :tinfoilhat:

[UdoKier]

31. Mark Warner. Mark Warner. Mark Warner.

Who's Mark Warner?

(just kidding)

[Zynx]

35. Sounds like a plan. I like it!

He's just what we need. Maybe put Easley on a ticket with him.

[Azure]

36. Warner/Easley would be good, yes.

We've got to prevent Hillary from getting the nod. I like the woman, but she will lose it for us as sure as shit.

[Zynx]

39. Hillary would get crushed.

She would lose really badly here in Wisconsin.

[LightTheMatch]

40. Warner/Easley

I want them both on the ticket. They both seem to look pretty good and have a lot of Charisma.

[Zynx]

42. They are what we need to reclaim the rural parts of this country.

They can win on the values crap and are still credible Democrats.

[Azure]

43. Yes, Warner/Easley is a winning ticket. n/t

[no name no slogan]

44. No. Way. Repeat after me.

Pandering doesn't work. How about we take tough, unwaivering stands on the issues, and stick with them-- showing voters that we have the integrity to stand up for what we truly believe in, and don't just say things to get elected.

It worked for Paul Wellstone. Republicans would vote for him, even though they disagreed with him 98% of the time, because he had COURAGE and CONVICTION. And you always knew where he stood-- he was never called a "waffler" or "flip-flopper".

People want leaders with character, who stand up for what they believe in-- even if they don't agree with them. THAT is how you win elections-- not by pandering to the lowest common denominator.

[Zynx]

45. Feingold has the same appeal here in Wisconsin.

However, I don't see what's wrong with Warner.

[JohnKleeb]

47. thats what I think

Feingold and Wellstone were and are mavericks of the party who got republican votes often for their stands, good guys. I like wise dont have a problem with Warner as someone who has knowna about him since '96.

[JohnKleeb]

46. I love and admire Wellstone but you don't know about Warner

The guy has a lot of character, really makes Virginia Democrats proud to be well democrats. Warner doesn't pander, and he really cares about the people of this state, he's been trying to make it easier for kids to afford college.

[usregimechange]

48. He looks not very presidential to me...

[MisterP]

49. SpongeBob SquarePants SpongeBob SquarePants Sponge-Booooob SquarePaaaants!

[Name removed]

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[catbert836]

52. John. Edwards. Repeat after me. John. Edwards.

And with Barack Obama running for VP.

[Bread and Circus]

53. Repeat after me: I'm. sick. to. my. stomach. of. this. horseshit.

Let's give the horseraces a rest for a while.

[donheld]

55. Bugs. Bunny. Repeat after me. Bugs. Bunny

That is, if you would like to actually win an election.