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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:08 PM
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Ultimate Tinfoil: Never mind!
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 04:15 PM by NoPasaran
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:08 PM
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1. ask seventhson (nt)
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:12 PM
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4. He was a nut
I think we can say that of the tombstoned.

I'm just a little curious, frustrate, and slowly getting tipsy.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:11 PM
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2. A simple error:
Anyone have any thoughts?

Such discussions aren't about "thoughts." Perhaps, "any foolish comments?" Or, "any inane ramblings?" Or, "Anyone want to go off their anti-psychotic drugs long enough to contribute to this thread?" would be a more accurate way of asking for participation.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:13 PM
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5. did you read about seventhson...
he was always advancing this crap and he turned out to be a freeper...


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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:19 PM
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9. Shocking, wasn't it.
I also read his hilarious e-mail to Will Pitt, where he claims there are Republican operatives out to kill him or some such.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:23 PM
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13. he said that clark poisoned the water in haiti and gave men man-breasts...
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 04:23 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I never liked him...


He was a cartoon version of a leftist...
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:23 PM
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14. seventhson or Will Pitt?
Afterall, somebody did heave a brick at Will.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:28 PM
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17. Sorry, seventhson claimed
there were Republican operatives out to kill him (seventhson). Thanks for catching the sloppiness.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:11 PM
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3. i think the only thing wrapped in an enigma
are conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones and its effect on the election.

If Skull & Bones could influence the election they would have tossed it to Kerry, not the dumbass.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:14 PM
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6. Okay, well never mind.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:14 PM
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7. if kerry was going to throw the election
why did he say in candid moments "I can't believe I am losing to this idiot."
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:17 PM
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8. I'm not saying Kerry threw the election
I just was wondering if there weren't forces larger than him involved. But I guess everyone's still bleeding too much to engage in a good paranoid fantasy at the moment.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:21 PM
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10.  yes, it was the giant lizard people
they cost us the election.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:22 PM
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11. I hate those fucking lizard people!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:22 PM
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12. Here's a post from my blog a couple of months ago:
"Yours in 322"

Thanks to Cryptogon for hosting an mp3 of the recent BBC Radio 4 documentary on Skull and Bones. You can download the half-hour file here.

Most of the material will be familiar to those who've tried to educate themselves about the shadowy old boy network of privileged Yalies, but here's something I hadn't heard before: in the presidential papers of George HW Bush is a letter from John Kerry, which he'd signed with the traditional salutation of the Bonesman bond, "Yours in 322."

New, but not surprising. As Alexandra Robbins revealed in Secrets of the Tomb, Kerry has been an active adult recruiter for S&B (in 1986 he tried to "tap" a reluctant Jacob Weisberg, future editor of Slate, who was shocked that a liberal senator could support such an organization), and is said to use "322" as a mnemonic device. And of course his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, is the widow of a Republican Bonesman, Senator John Heinz.

For many - too many - Skull and Bones means either It's the Illuminati! or It's a frat house! (The latter charge has become increasingly shrill since Kerry became the presumptive Democratic nominee.) While it's true that founder William Russell was greatly influenced by Germanic secret societies, particularly the Bavarian Illuminati, I think it's a mistake to get hung up on the legacy of Adam Weishaupt. More revealing, and more enduring, is the legacy of the opium trade.

Samuel Russell, William's cousin, founded Russell and Company in 1823. Its business was to purchase cheap opium in Turkey and smuggle it into China, where it was strictly prohibited. Americans were competing for narco dollars with the British, who were importing higher quality Indian grades, and were founding family fortunes in the process. Russell's chief of operations in Canton was Warren Delano Jr, the grandfather of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Russell's early investors included John Cleve Green, who financed Princeton, and Joseph Coolidge, whose son organized United Fruit which tied together the colonial interests of many New England families, and grandson Archibald Coolidge who co-founded the Council on Foreign Relations. And then there's the Forbes family - the Forbes in "John Forbes Kerry" - who "took drug smuggling to its highest level of profitability and left a legacy that extends into modern times," as Steven Sora writes in Secret Societies of America's Elite.

Skull and Bones - established in 1832 and incorporated in 1856 as the Russell Trust - was sustained by opium money, and established its influence through its ability to place graduates in key positions in the lucrative global drug trade.

Sora advances the thesis that the secret business of societies such as Skull and Bones has been to facilitate the accrual of criminal wealth by a privileged pirate class through such means as drug-running, slave-trading and arms-dealing. Knowing this history, we can make more sense of how a supposedly distinguished family such as Bush can be mixed up in so many stories of drug-running, weapons-smuggling and money-laundering. In the context of the opium trade, the CIA's stuffing Golden Triangle heroin in the corpses of GIs killed in Vietnam and protecting the importation of crack to America's inner cities reads suddenly like business as usual.

That both George Bush and John Kerry are Bonesmen may be nothing but a fluke of the American overclass. That in 2003, George Bush appointed a Bonesman, William H Donaldson, to head the Securites and Exchange Commission, the regulatory body responsible for investigating charges of 9/11 insider trading, is no fluke. That Donaldson is a longtime friend of the Bush family, and classmate of fellow Bonesman and terrorist money launderer Jonathan Bush, is no joke.

Skull and Bones remains to some a silly issue, but an issue it will remain so long as the question "Do you know General Russell?" can send an old boy into a trance faster than "Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?"
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/09/yours-in-322.html
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:25 PM
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15. Some Boners Were Lefties And Some Boners Were Righties
nt
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:26 PM
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16. You know, a feller could interpret that a couple of ways
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:57 PM
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18. Depends If They Have Peyronies Disease
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