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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:20 PM
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Why Can't We Smear the GOP with Alabama?
They do it to us all the time with Massachusetts!

Never mind that the divorce rates in MA are lower than in AL. (how's that for MORAL VALUES?)
Or that environmental protections are better in MA.
Or that the educational system is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD in MA.
Etc etc.

Or, check-out this latest story:

http://www.wpmi.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=94A893FE-65A9-4DAC-8C47-EA5F61894D2F

"Alabama voters elected a Supreme Court candidate linked to Old South ideals and apparently killed a move to strike segregation-era language from the state Constitution, a victory of sorts for the state's neo-Confederate crowd and a troubling sign to others."

Yes, you've read it correctly - Alabama voters have chosen to KEEP segregation language in the state constitution!

With this, and with many other points, we can smear the hell outta the GOP - perhaps even win back many of those northern Senate seats.

So.. why not? :evilgrin:
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:22 PM
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1. we should be attacking
Republicans for being in hands of people with a narrow, dangerous social agenda. Clinton did this well. Use religion to promote our values and plans for the country.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:22 PM
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2. because
it's ok to attack the liberals and an entire state like massachusettes openly. but if we were to criticize something like this in alabama it means we are insensitive to their culture. we are elitists and arrogant. we just don't get it.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:28 PM
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3. Uh huh..
They don't care how we feel when pulling this stunt.. I don't see why we should care about how they feel.

Can you imagine this line coming from our chairperson's mouth?

"Why are you trying to turn the entire country into Alabama?"

Seriously.. if we were to turn this into a contest of Alabama versus Massachusetts, and if we were to have all of our talking-points and stats lined-up, I can see this working. Do we end-up offending Alabama? Big whoop if we do.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:29 PM
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4. I say we go for it. Even people in states like Georgia laugh at Alabama.
And it's not like Alabama is anything but Repuke Heaven anyway.
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:36 PM
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5. Well, why don't we let Rove tell us some OTHER things we should do
It's time we stopped letting the other party decide what tactics we use and come up with our own.

Adopting the tactics of your enemy proves two things only:
1. You don't have a better idea
2. You aren't any different from him.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:40 PM
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6. Okay then..
Pretend, for one moment, that they hadn't been using Massachusetts as a smear.

Give me your own assessment of this strategy. Something original.. something other than "You're just like them.."
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:46 PM
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7. Point out the obvious:
This is what liberals have stood for over the past 200 years:
1. Independence from Great Britain
2. Abolition of slavery
3. Woman's right to vote
4. African-American's right to vote
5. No child labor
6. A fair wage and a fair work week

versus what what conservatives have stood for over the past 200 years:
1. Dependence on Great Britain
2. Slavery
3. No voting rights for women
4. No voting rights for African-Americans
5. Child labor
6. No fair wage, no fair work week

Now which side do you think was right? Which side do YOU want to be on?
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:49 PM
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8. Agree Agree Agree

Why is Massachusetts, arguably the most educated state in the nation the butt of "Ted Kennedy" jokes and a state barely out of the dark ages is championed as "the common man" and are beyond reproach.

The problem is serious however, Democrats don't believe in belitting or attacking ANY PART of this country. Hell, we could use Idaho as a case example...talk about the Aryan nations stuck up in the hills, the militans, Nazis, and right-wing milita movements who cast their votes for Republicans everytime.

Why don't we expose this cadre of hate mongers? You think its so fucking bad to be aligned with Ted Kennedy? Good, then you shitz are aligned with Bo Gritz.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:56 PM
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9. Why not do it!


I have an Alabama question.
What was name of the Judge with the 10 Commandments crap?
Remember they were going to refuse to let them move the plaque out of the Court?

The pt. I am making is that I recall that they DID move it and there were a lot of born again types that came around and prayed.

What ever happened ?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:45 PM
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10. Judge Moore i think
and he supported keeping the racist language in the Alabama Constitution.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:54 PM
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13. Demo operatives really need to engineer a "Moore for President"
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 09:57 PM by arewenotdemo
trial balloon.

Could very well send the "God-fearing" nutjobs streaming outta the GOOP big white tent and over the cliff.

Could color battleground states cornflower blue.

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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:10 PM
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17. Judge Roy Moore!!! (nm)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:49 PM
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11. That Is An excellent Idea, Mr. Doll
Though my own personal bete noir is Texas....

"If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell."
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:53 PM
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12. Alabama is THE biggest Federal welfare state
it takes in from the federal coffers 100 billion more than it pays in taxes...actually almost all of the red states are federal welfare states...they could simply not exist without the blue states.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:02 PM
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14. Huuum this needs to be telegraphed


They think they have a mandate to be in charge of something.
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Poor Richard Lex Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:25 PM
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16. The trial balloon idea is a great one
they supported Nadar hoping he wold be a spoiler, and look what Perot did for us.

something like that requires political operatives, and I think the repukes are much more into that sort of thing than we are.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:23 PM
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15. No, that would be Washington DC.
If you're only counting actual states, then that honor goes to North Dakota.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
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