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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:24 PM
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Anti-Specter Prayer Vigil in Frist's Office
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1273148/posts#54

Join Evangelical and Catholic Pro-Life Leaders The Rev. Rob Schenck, Rev. Pat Mahoney, Troy Newman, and Chris Slattery to cry out:


"No Judiciary Committee Chair To Sen. Arlen Specter!"

and join us when the Senate returns from recess in a


"Stop Specter Pro-Life Pray-In"
Tuesday, November 16th (Call Chris Slattery for Free rides from NY and NJ)

Assemble at either: 109 Second St. NE (near U.S. Supreme Court) 12:30PM (then we will process to pray) or Arrive at 1PM sharp at 1st St. and Constitution Ave.



Senator Bill First 461 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC



I doubt this will come to anything near fruition at this point, but we can expect some fine theater in the coming years, I'd bet.

And why not? It's a green light now, right?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:55 PM
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1. Shameful kick
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:24 PM
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2. We need Specter to turn Democrat and 11 moderate Repubs in Senate
to turn Independent because they're so pissed off at the Bush Administration's extremism. I believe that would give us a one-vote majority.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:34 PM
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8. Then I hope these right wingnuts succeed in their prayer
vigil, and I hope the media covers the heck out of it. But I don't think the idea's going to fly very well.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:20 PM
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53. Is this a possibility?
He's not exactly the GOPs Zell Miller, for chrissake. They are such vindictive little worms.

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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:25 PM
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3. Dumbfucks
Well, at least we're not the only ones turning on our own.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:27 PM
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4. Did you read the thread?!
What are they going to do now--shut up the looney right who essentially got Chimpy elected to a second term?
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:29 PM
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6. eeeehhh
i'd rather not go there. I'd feel dirty
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:28 PM
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5. Let's make sure this gets LOTS of airtime
We have to expose the rest of the people who voted for Chimpy these extremists.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:33 PM
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7. That was my first reaction too, Zulch, but I don't know if even
Frist would let them come anywhere close to his office. Yet as one of them said, they've earned some "political capital," and they intend to use it!

AHHH HAHAHAHAHA!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:22 AM
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9. trouble-in-paradise-already kick!
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:31 AM
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10. they're going to start eating each other up
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 12:31 AM by rlev1223
The hard-right dominionist fundies don't really care about party --
they have shown in the past they will fight the reputzes when they think they have to (several years they scuttled a bankruptcy overhaul because it would have hurt anti-abortion groups seeking bankruptcy protection -- pissed off the NY banks "big time.")

Perhaps some of the "moderate" repubs -- a very relative term -- will start to wake up, get some balls, including Olympia Snowe -- and
realize that these people are their enemies, too.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:36 AM
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11. There aren't enough of those left, and the wingnuts are too
entrenched. They are owed..."bigtime," as F-yourself Cheney would say.

I like the moderates, but there are simply too few of them. Even so, your idea would be nice.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:59 AM
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42. I would not count on Snowe and Collins
Snowe, a professed pro-choice moderate voted for the partial birth abortion bill. I think Collins, another professed "pro-choice" moderate did also although I have not looked that up. They will go the party line and may deviate some on "safe" issues, like providing pencils to teachers who are spending their own money on supplies.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:37 AM
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12. 1,000 Lefties Should Show Up And Pretend Their Fundies (nt)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:06 AM
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28. DC evilDUers, you have your calling!
Great idea.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:41 AM
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13. LOL!!!
We may be depressed, but the next 4 years should be a riot.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:59 AM
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15. My thoughts exactly! n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:08 AM
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29. That's true--our wits are already returning.
Gitmo should be a riot...
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:44 AM
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14. so it has begun
we are witnessing the first battle of the gop civil war. bwahaha
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:00 AM
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16. I think it has begun in earnest, finally. I feel for those few
moderates who are left. Their days are numbered.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:09 PM
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49. Maybe they will join us outcast Democrats?
After all we are still counting Zell Miller.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:02 AM
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17. Anti-Specter furor grows
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/06/MNG8H9N4F41.DTL

Anti-Specter furor grows
Attempts to backpedal on remarks fail to stem conservatives' ire

Washington -- Angry conservatives flooded Senate phone and fax lines Friday demanding that Republicans prevent Sen. Arlen Specter from presiding over the Judiciary Committee after his comments predicting that strongly anti-abortion judicial nominees might be rejected in the Senate.

The outpouring illustrated how the party's conservative wing has been emboldened by the White House election victory and the strengthening of Republican majorities in Congress, potentially raising new hazards for moderate Republicans who might want to break from the president or House and Senate leadership on major issues.

Republican lawmakers and top Senate aides, speaking privately for the most part, said the uproar from the right was becoming an impediment for Specter, a Pennsylvania lawmaker who has coveted the chairmanship. They said while it was likely he would still get the post, it was no longer a certainty.

"He is not out of the woods," said one Senate aide who is closely monitoring developments on the Judiciary Committee.

Most of those Republicans said they initially believed that Specter's subsequent clarification -- that he did not mean his remarks as a warning to Bush not to nominate to the Supreme Court a judge who would be inclined to overturn the Roe vs. Wade decision -- would protect him. But they said continuing resistance to his taking the chairmanship of the committee that examines judicial nominees was being fanned by conservative talk-radio hosts and activist groups outraged over his comments in the immediate aftermath of resounding Republican wins Tuesday night.


(more at link)

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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:04 AM
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21. Fauxndies needs to be careful ...

The GOP moderates could go independent and cut deals to give themselves committee chairmanship under a bi-partisan leadership group.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:01 AM
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27. Spector should do exactly that..
He should try to convince the others to join him, and caucus with the dems.. Wouldn't that frost the tinpot cowboy's cake??
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:20 AM
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45. I hope he does.
Whatever happens, I'm sure we'll see plenty of pyrotechnics in the what's left of the Republican party in the days to come.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:17 AM
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18. Man, these people really need to go to Hell for all the things
they're doing in the name of religion. I bet God is pissed.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:23 AM
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19. So are what few are left of the moderate Republicans.
But they should have seen it coming many years ago.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:25 AM
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20. Let them EAT each other
Cannibalism in the GOP. I love it. Yum, yum, yum, eat each other up.

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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:57 AM
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26. My sentiments exactly! nt
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 08:57 AM by MidwestMomma
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:07 AM
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22. Now their crazies get to tear them apart.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:20 AM
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33. I can't wait. I know I shouldn't feel this way, but Black Tuesday
may have been the best thing for the moderates and the left--EVER.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:08 AM
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23. We must face one truth ...

Unless our judges can stay on the bench, Roe V Wade is HISTORY.

Bush won't make the mistake that Reagan made. Reagan's appointments were based on legal experience. Bush will NOT appoint jurists. He will appoint right wing synchophants like Thomas!!! And he'll appoint them EXTRA young so they can stay on the bench for 40 years!!!!

In all honesty, I think Roe v Wade will fall within Bush's presidency!! At that point, it will be legal in the blue states and illegal in the red states!!!

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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:33 AM
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24. Reagan's appointments were based on legal experience?
Scalia, Rehnquist, O'Connor, and Kennedy are jurists? Reagan's appointments are the reason we inhabit a banana republic...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:18 AM
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32. Won't happen. If we hold anti-choice Congress folk accountable
for abortion rights, they are backed into a wall.

They haven't got the nerve to completely overturn Roe v. Wade, but if they don't they lose their base.

This is the most powerful strategy we have at our disposal--force the issue.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:01 AM
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48. Oh I think they indeed do have the nerve nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:07 AM
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25. kick
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:10 AM
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30. Seriously, we need to e-mail Specter with support.
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 09:13 AM by blondeatlast
Right now, we need all the friends we can get.

Here's the contact info:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/mail/?id=497&type=CO&lvl=C&state=PA

He's been a vocal proponent of opening up stem-cell reseach, too.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:14 AM
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31. I've never been good at this, can someone offer talking points? nt
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:22 AM
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34. It's not hard. Just tell him you appreciate his sentiments and
his integrity as a senator. Let him know he has your support and that you look forward to his wisdom and competence as head of the Judiciary Committee.

These aren't talking points. I hope they're better.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:34 AM
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36. Thanks--it's on it's way.
As one with a potential benefit from stem-cell research, I appreciate every freiend I've got.

Specter hasn't just been a supporter, he's been vocal about it. That takes some guts in his party.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:31 AM
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35. Was there a fiery cross? Specter already denounced the statements
said they weren't his. Same f8ing day.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:38 AM
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37. It hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it will happen. But it's
an indication of the kinds of things we might see by the emboldened right wingnuts.

What Specter said is now (of course) irrelevant. It's media/cyber legend that counts now.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:39 AM
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38. I just became Arlen Specter's greatest fan.
Just because Bush "won", I expect there to be an onslaught of public praying and gnashing of teeth by these Xtians.

I will support common sense wherever I find it, and if Arlen Specter is the only thing standing between Conservojudge and the right to make a personal decision, then he's my guy.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:54 AM
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40. I just wrote him, address in post #30.
I think he could be persuaded to go Independent, as he is pretty moderate to almost liberal regarding socail issues.

We need every friend we've got, and if we can demonstrate bipartisan support now, he'll be an ally concerning SCOTUS, you can bet on it.

Not to mention, he has enormous clout.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:50 AM
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39. Check this response from a Freep:
Agreed. I would like to see specter step down. But this is utterly the wrong way to do it. Watch the cameras show up from the media. Crazy right wing Christian stories. If Specter does not get the Chairmanship now, it will be because Bush can't stand up to the crazy right-wing Christians.

THIS IS WRONG WRONG WRONG. THE FOLKS DOING THIS ARE GIVING THE LEFT THE HOOK THEY WANT.


(emphasis mine)

Ya gotta LOVE that.

The cannibalism has already begun.


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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:59 AM
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41. The whole thread's like that!
The far-right now has even farther right wingnuts who believe they have a mandate.

I tried to egg the thread along for awhile last night, but it finally petered out.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:01 AM
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43. Also, I want them to do it, and I want the media to cover it!
But I doubt it will happen, at least this time.
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:11 AM
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44. The Rev. James Dobson
is on "This Week" right now, ripping Sen. Spector a new one. I despise this man.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 10:57 AM
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46. If Specter has any guts, he'll switch parties. Not holding my breath.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:16 PM
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52. I see him going I, though.
I think he really has the guts to stand up, and I'm going to support him from the get-go.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:00 AM
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47. Good Grief
I hate Specter from his days on the Warren Commission and Thomas hearings.

This is tooooooooo much. Fine Fine theater. Cleansing of the Party?
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:08 PM
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50. I hope somebody sneaks in some beer
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ColdWarZoomie Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:13 PM
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51. Civil War Begins
GOP has been courting the rabid Christian right for a long time.

Now, Bush & Co. is going to be expected to deliver, and fast.

Don't forget that these politically active evangelicals are the ones "out of touch with the mainstream."
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:30 PM
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54. I'm a little confused
Wasn't he the guy in the Anita Hill Clarence Thomas hearings who helped Clarence Thomas get appointed. Why is he now going the other way?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:44 PM
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55. Indeed he did, and it hurt him politically. But with SCOTUS
at stake, we need EVERY friend we can get across the aisle, and he's bucked the party line before.
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