Where are the wistle blowers if there was voter fraud?

[Fla Dem]

I do think there was tampering with the BBV, but I'm concerned that no one who worked the polls, or works in county and state election departments has come forward. There's surely democrats who work in those positions who could blow this wide open.

[cheshire]

1. Here's one........................

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[Walt Starr]

I'm sorry, can you give a name of the whistle blower?

I couldn't find anything about a whistle blower at the provided link.

[cheshire]

3. It's not one person, There is a FL. politician doing something but this is

just an overall group thing. I'll go look for the one name.

[Walt Starr]

5. I had read the alleged FL politician story

but he would not be a whistle blower, and I have seen nothing more than a second hand account that remains unsubstantiated.

A whistle blower, by definition, would be somebody within either the company building, programming, and providing the machines who comes out telling the story of how they designed it for fraud or in a County Clerk or Secretary of State office who witnessed and/or participated in election fraud.

[cheshire]

8. So you only want someone from the company as proof. Sorry can't do that.

[Walt Starr]

9. OR a County Clerk's office or a Secretary of State's office

There must be litereally hundreds of people involved all over the country for this to have happened.

Surely one witness can be produced.

[cheshire]

11. Did you read anything I gave you?

[Walt Starr]

12. I've read it all

and have seen no substantiation of the charges.

[Junkdrawer]

16. If Wally O'Dell confessed on national TV, Walt would still say...

"no substantiation"

[Walt Starr]

17. Now there's a leap

:eyes:

You must be absolutely correct. I'd better get my tinfoilhat adjusted because obviously Karl Rove's mind rays are affecting me.

:eyes:

[Walt Starr]

2. DU dupe

delete

[Junkdrawer]

4. Two points:

1.) The main nightmare of the loosely audited use of computers in elections it that it only takes a disgustingly few people to perpetrate the theft.

2.) Insiders do come forward - but so far they haven't been high enough to prove things to the media's "standards". However, their standards would have acquitted Jack Ruby on a lack of evidence.

[cheshire]

6. Here is another story. I'm still looking.........................

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

[cheshire]

10. And...................

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0302/S00036.htm

[mtnsnake]

7. Good thread.If there really was voter fraud, there's no way it could ever

be kept secret for long, not with so many people speculating about it and supposedly investigating into it. Someone involved would have to fuck up sooner or later.

For the time being, let's just hope that there WAS fraud and that it'll be found out. Frankly, though, I'm getting a little tired of seeing this used as the main excuse why we lost. It's counterproductive to fixing what ails us......in the event that there was no fraud, that is.

Fraud or no fraud, we screwed up enough times during the campaign that we don't need to blame it entirely on this excuse alone.

[kerry2win]

13. sorry if dupe

jeff fisher dem candidate fla. 16th district was to meet with FBI on sat. www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm but like mentioned above not direct connection.

[cheshire]

14. Thanks,

[mtnsnake]

15. Read that article last night. Good read. If Jeff really does have evidence

of who hacked the election and how they did it, I wonder if we'll ever see his face again. I hope he's got some good people with him when he meets with the FBI if what he says is true.

Funny how you don't hear mention of this on any of the shows on TV. At least I didn't. Why is that?