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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:01 PM
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Bev Harris & Howard Dean Hack the Vote, in 90 seconds - demonstration
Posted at commongroundcommonsense online forum by manonfyre

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=1235

Wow look Dean the Hacker!
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a new day Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:03 PM
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1. When I saw that demonstration
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 05:03 PM by a new day
it became extra clear to me why the software is proprietary. Every junk piece of crap code I've ever come across is proprietary because the originators are so ashamed of it.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:14 PM
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23. Bingo.
and totally agreed.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:04 PM
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2. This ought to be fun to watch. nt
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:11 PM
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3. Transfer for all to see
Dean: All right, Bev, show me how to do this.



Harris: Well, What we have here is the central tabulator computer. Now in a voting system you have all these different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in one county.

All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So of course if you were going to do something you shouldn't, to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to the 4000 machines or to just come in here to one machine and deal with all of them at once?

What surprises people is the central tabulator is just a PC. It's like you and I use, it uses Windows, it's just a regular computer.

Dean: So anybody who can hack into a PC, can hack into the central tabulator.

Harris: The GEMS program is the program that is the central tabulator program. And I'm going to put in a password here. OK, we're in. Now this is the official program that the county supervisor sees.



Dean: Is this the Diebold program?

Harris: Yes, this is a Diebold central tabulation program.

Dean: OK.


Report', It's gonna-- we're in spin for a minute, while it adds up all the votes from all the different precincts.

And as we can see here, Howard Dean has a thousand votes, and Lex Luther (sic) has 500 so you're beating Lex Luther and we're--

Dean : --Two to one!--



Harris: --Yes, and Tiger Woods unfortunately doesn't have any votes yet.

Dean: All right.

Harris: All right, let's close this out. I was just showing you the legitimate way to go in and look at votes, which of course--

Dean: --All right--

Harris: --you can't tamper with.

Go to the Start Menu, and I'm going to show you something tricky. And I want you to go to 'My Computer' and just click that, and you're going to see something come up, go to...

Harris: ...'Local Disc C:' and go to 'Program Files'. And on Program Files we're going to go to 'GEMS', which is the name of the Diebold program...



We're going to go to 'LocalDB', which

stands for 'Local Database, that's where they keep the votes. And by the way, this has been out on the Internet for ages now.
Harris: Go to 'Central Tabulator Votes', which is the database we just looked at...






...and then go to the 'Sum of the



Candidates', which is that table.


Harris: You see we have 800 votes here for you, and 400 for Lex Luthor-- Let's just flip those. We'll make that 400... and we'll give a hundred votes to Tiger.


Harris: Let's just see what happened here. We'll go back into GEMS the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor, you're checking on the progress of your election, and as you can see now, Howard Dean only has 500 votes, Lex Luther has 900 and Tiger Woods has 100 votes.

Dean: Hm.

Harris: We just edited an election, it took us 90 seconds.

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:59 PM
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9. Thanks for posting this!!
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 06:02 PM by senseandsensibility
I appreciate it!:) But am I the only one who's confused? Was this shown on MSNBC today?
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:11 PM
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4. Dean the Hacker is right!
Get out that machete Howie-- hack away at the morass of CW out there!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:20 PM
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5. Screen shots and transcript
http://www.crocuta.net/Dean/Dean_Host_TopicA_Aug8_2004.htm

We save everything, we Deaniacs are so crazy.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:24 PM
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6. LOL! I want a t-shirt with that saying, madfloridian! I love it!
We Deaniacs are so crazy!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:54 PM
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19. It's "Secaucus" NJ, LOL.
We got some weird names here LOL!

CNBC is based in Secaucus New Jersey (maybe Fort Lee too).
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:02 PM
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20. Another weird NJ name.....
Piscataway..(spelling?)
My hubby grew up in NJ. Watchung.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:10 PM
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21. Ah....Watchung, Ho-ho-kus....Matawan....Pequannock....
I think most of our names were Native American in origin and then got changed around.

But Watchung is popular in North/Central Jersey. The town, the streets, shopping plazas LOL.....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:14 PM
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22. I have wonderful old postcards online over a hundred years old.
I am pretty private about my identity though. I would love to share them....we have hundreds of them.

I just can't figure how to get around the privacy thing in an album...

He gets homesick for NJ, sometimes. But he loves Florida winters.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:47 PM
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25. I bet he does!
We've been having unseasonably warm temperatures around here, but I bet FL temps are better any day.

No getting around that personal info thing...I'm the same way, and I really wanted to post in the "My Name is " thread. I'm way too paranoid.
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:30 PM
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7. On the Votergate 2 movie
But its down for now.

Who doesn't want you to see this film?
Video will be restored in the next 12 hours!



Our video files have been attacked and taken out. Who doesn't want you to see this film? We are working around the clock to get the video files back online right away. Please check back soon.

Other Evoting Fraud info here:

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm

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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:55 PM
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8. Awesome
Dean hacks Diebold
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:03 PM
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10. Vid clip from Topic A with Tina Brown
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:04 PM
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11. That was great.
I have the tape, and our local DFA groups shares copies with each other.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:19 PM
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12. That's a MICROSOFT ACCESS DATABASE!
Fucking SHIT! They're using Microsoft Access as the database! You can just double-click the database file and change the numbers with ACCESS!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:21 PM
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13. Righhhht! Good old ACCESS.
Yep.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:28 PM
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16. that's pathetic
In 15 years of database consulting, I've only seen one reason to use Access: to allow management types to change stuff after the consultants leave. That a state would "certify" the virtual equivalent of an etch-a-sketch is more than troubling.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:22 PM
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14. How exactly does a hacker get access to the central tabulator computer?
Isn't the basic theory here that the black hats have access to this machine.

So how do they do it?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 06:34 PM
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15. They sit in front of it.
This is not serious hacking at all - like I say above, it's just an Access database. You just double-click on the file, pick the table, and change the number. It's as easy as changing numbers in an Excel spreadsheet.
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eriffle Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:45 PM
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18. remote login?
If the central tabulator, which by the way sounds like something from lost in space, is running windows xp pro it can have a remote login.
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a new day Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:51 AM
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27. They are a member of the local election board
It is known as vote rigging. Election boards across the country are filled with partisan officials. The Diebold software is built on technology that allows anyone with the slightest familiarity with Microsoft tools to make changes to vote totals with no trace.

What could be better for someone with a political agenda?
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:33 PM
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17. This thing uses access...
As an IT professional all I can say is you have got to be kidding me. Talk about a non secure POS... lmao.
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:18 PM
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24. wonderful

This is what it takes to show the knuckle draggers that it's possible.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:41 AM
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26. Back to one!
:kick:
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Krupskaya Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:42 AM
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28. Careful with this...
Lurkers might see it and next thing you know you'll see on Druge tomorrow:

SCREAMIN' DEAN SUPPORTS BUSH* VICTORY; ACKNOWLEDGES VOTING SUPERIORITY
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Bozos for Bush Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:40 PM
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29. Great thread, Indy!
Even a chimp could follow along.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:40 PM
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30. That's so scary.
Unfortunately, not enough people will see it.
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