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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:30 PM Original message |
There is something to be said for charisma |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's not all Kerry's fault. This was the Bush strategy and a lot of Dems.. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You miss the point |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Kerry could have had a better personality, but still, every chance I got |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It's always like that in every election against an incumbent. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I shared my observations |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. Your talents, hard work, passion, and observations are |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think you're right. Unfortunately, in our current society, being |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Thank god there are telegenic people who care about Democracy. |
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smbolisnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hey Julie |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Hey, I'm there |
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smbolisnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Exactly. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I guess what I'd like to know is how many people stayed home because |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. Charismatic people tend to have Sex Issues. |
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CityHall (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Exactly right. MRI data confirmed this |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. nelson lets not forget another fact |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Here is a fact for you |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. hey julie, i am a julie |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ironic, I just posted something similar in another thread... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. CAll me crazy...I found plenty of |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. Star quality |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. star quality? how much star quality did * have ? |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Did I say he did? No. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. it wasn't "star quality" that beat us. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. a more distinct message on gay marriage would have done better |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I don't know if it's so much charisma as it is an ability to |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Great point! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. Kerry won my love |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. We knew Kerry , that's the difference. Most people didn't research |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. he got a great reaction when people saw him |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. exactly. and that should freak ALL of us out. |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Hi hijinx87!! |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. That was one sample and not true overall |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
28. Can we get off "charisma", please? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Like I said |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. well, maybe I'm just being a jerk. |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. SCHWARZENNEGGER. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. BULLCRAP. |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And why did he win? |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I was BORN in California, and I am the first to say . . . |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. with all y'all in place. it would still take ohio. n/t |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. easy, baby. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. while california is democratic, it's not very liberal |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. yes, yes, yes. |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Great example; people voter FOR Schwarzennegger, not just AGAINST Davis |
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baltodemvet (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. Charisma has it's place |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. But bush has no charisma! |
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Rev_Karl (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. The only thing Bush has is charisma! |
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liberalfrombirth (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kerry is not a leader! |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Kerry is a leader. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. it was in the portrayal |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. That is the reason |
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LittleDannySlowhorse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. There was another factor at work as well |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
48. Did Kerry ever smile once during his speeches? He hunts geese, though |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
49. There is a lot to be said for charisma |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I agree. Every time someone would bring up the 1970s Kerry, |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
50. I believe Kerry has charisma. |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
54. This was definitely part of the problem. |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. NONE of the primary contenders had it |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. To oust an incumbent, charisma isn't just something, it's everything |
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