Lieberman: No Howard Dean at DNC!!

[WI_DEM]

"To rebuild this party, we need somebody whose more in the center, and more of a bridge-builder. I don't have any particular choice for that, myself. It's a job that's going to be a tough job. But, with all respect, Howard Dean is not the right man to lead the Democratic party now."

Well, with all respect, Joe I disagree. Dean is just what we need right now.

Lieberman believes that Vilsack could be the right man. Also, according to this Kerry is also supporting Vilsack from behind the scenes. The DNC chairmanship is becoming "Stop Howard Dean" movement.

http://www.dailykos.com/

you'll have to scoll down a bit.

[Stephanie]

1. Does Joe know that we can't stand him?

Is he at all aware that we don't care what he thinks?

[LiberalEsto]

2. Me: No Lieberman at DNC

what an accommodator that man is.

[Fridays Child]

14. It'd be worth the loss of a Senate seat to get him out of there.

Joe Lieberman is a puke.

[xultar]

3. Well, Whomever was lookin for Joementum here it is...becareful what you

wish for!
rotflmao

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

4. Hmmm....

Where have we heard this before?

[Liberal Veteran]

5. Hey Joe! Howzabout we get Randall Terry or Ralph Reed to lead the DNC?

Let's not bother with any halfway steps.

[MSgt213]

6. Lieberman SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!

[saracat]

20. I would agree but I have beesn chastised for daring to tell certain

Party Principals that they should Shutup! Careful. They will tell you you sound like O'Rielly too! LOL! I agree. Hush your mouth Joe!

[MSgt213]

39. Liberman is part of the problem not the solution. Listening to him will

get the crap get out of us. Again.

[leesa]

59. That's his goal. He shills for the GOP.

[briankup]

74. I just emailed him and told him....

....Lets flood his email box with our thoughts! He is all that is hurting us as a party. http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue

[Obviousman]

7. I've been watching this all day

It's sickening that another Stop Dean movement has been created. This time we need to stand up and not bend to pressure. If Vilsack and the likes get in, we can expect the Democratic Party to take a sharp rightward turn. I for one, wont stick around

[Pab Sungenis]

51. I hate to say this....

...but a party that doesn't want Howard Dean doesn't want me, either. It won't take much for me to switch my loyalty from party to man.

If the party forces him out, and the Governor goes off to another party, it's going to be hard to stay put.

Sad to see that when we need to be together, people like Lieberman are forcing us apart.

[w13rd0]

8. Joe...

...joe, joe. Simply astonishing. Seems the "movers and shakers" in the DNC are determined to marginalize themselves into irrelevancy.

[Kitsune]

9. Joe Lieberman can shove it.

I am so sick of his drag-the-party-further-to-the-right bullshit.

[serryjw]

10. Everyday I ask my self why I want to be part of this?

They have no clue what we need or who I am.

[Larkspur]

11. As Dean said, if being a liberal means balancing budgets, then

Dean is a liberal and how much more moderate can he get, Pharisee Joe.

Oh, I forgot, Lieberman will probably be voting on raising the debt ceiling so Bush can continue plundering our Treasury and turning this nation into a 3rd world country.

[LSparkle]

12. JOEMENTUM, you lost

Go away! Or turn in your DNC credentials and join your pals at the RNC.

[Dying Eagle]

13. How Many times must we say it

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Get it joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ClintonTyree]

15. Well, with all respect.................

why the hell don't you leave the Democratic Party Joe? The DNC is beggin for a (real) third party right now. Either they get closer to their base, or they can take a freaking hike. I'm done with them.

[NewHampshireDem]

16. WTF is wrong with Lieberman?

I hate to say it, but he's a DINO ... there are folks on the other side of the aisle I'd rather have as DNC chair than Lieberman--Don't forget how courageously he fought on behalf of President Clinton ... oh, yeah, nevermind.

[FarLeftRage]

17. Hey! No joe liberman in the Democratic Party!

Kick his neo-con enabling a$$ right out!

[DrZeeLit]

18. Please... turn off his voice. I can't stand Lieberman's voice. And...

...he's NUTS...

Howard Dean SAVED the DNC.
No way 55 million dems vote at all without the Dean invigoration during the primaries.

Lieberman needs to retire.

[Miami Liberal]

19. SCREW YOU Lieberman!

Nobody cares what you think, why don't you just finally join the Repuke party? We know you're dying to.

[joanne]

25. Loserman is a Repuke lite

I'm SO SICK of the Democrats thinking we need to "move to the center".

[Fridays Child]

21. Screw 'em all. Howard Dean could damn near start his own party.

And, if it's true that Kerry supports Vilsack, screw Kerry, too. I always was a Dean supporter on loan to Kerry, anyway.

[Miami Liberal]

30. Same here

I grew to like and respect Kerry and fully supported him for president but I'm a true Deaniac.

[whistle]

40. That's a great idea, would Dean be willing to begin a grassroots....

...new party, The People's Democratic Party and the mascot can be a brown grizzly bear, there are lots of those in the wilds. I don't think Lieberman brought a single new voter into the democratic party in the last four years. Dean on the other hand fired the imaginations of the young and helped awaken many established democrats into questioning the direction and sanity of the Bush policies. He was a mobilizer and that's the type of leadership the democrats need now. If the party turns away from that, then I believe Howard Dean could mobilize a strong new party movement and the democrats will go the way of the dinosaurs.

The GOP has what, an elephant as their symbol. When was the elephant ever native to North America anyway? About 14,000 years ago during the last ice-age as the mastodon, which is where the republicans are taking us back to. Howard Dean could speed up that process for the republican party rather than our country. We need a fighter and we need someone with energy and somebody who won't lie. Dean is that person. I supported Kerry, I voted for Kerry, because our party nominated Kerry. But I must admit, in my heart I wanted Dean.

[Fridays Child]

52. We could be Deanocrats!

[Miami Liberal]

71. Well said Whistle

[whistle]

22. Joe Lieberman is a wimp and lays down for the neo-conservatives....

...the democratic party does not need more like him in the ranks, that's for sure. Howard Dean would make a great party leader and I could support that choice. We need strong non-compromisers for the next four years who can whip up converts to hold the fundie/neo-conservative hard right wingers in check. This country would head straight toward disaster if Bush gets his way and it is the likes of Howard Dean who can stop him and his cronies. Lieberman is totally ready to cave in just like he did in 2000 and my God he even went and endorsed George Bush against Kerry/Edwards in this election. Why are democrats giving Lieberman any voice, that's what I would like to know?

[Piperay]

23. "Build a bridge"

to where???? :wtf: Who are we supposed to bridge to, the repukes...they burned any bridge there might have been! :mad:

[saracat]

24. Fuck the right and fuck the centrists.

[Goldmund]

28. Fuck 'em

[Old and In the Way]

26. How well did Joe do during the primaries?

Oh yeah, he was insignificant. What on Earth makes Joe think that he has any influence on where the Party should go?

Joe, here's an idea....resign the Party and head over to the Republican side. You can use your influence to move them back to the center.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

32. We are in a 3-way split decision for third place!!!!

He needs to go away NOW, if only because they played Neil Diamond when he took the stage at the Democratic Convention.

[Obviousman]

41. Oh my goodness

I forgot his "three way tie for third place" This is the kind of "winning" ol' joe will bring to the democrats.

[graywarrior]

27. I'm losing faith in the dems

Are they not getting it that this is why they lost the election?

[AntiCoup2K4]

29. Yo, Holy Joe!

Shove your Joementum and your neocon appeasement right up that tight Connecticut ASS! :nuke:

[Dark]

31. Doesn't he realize that without the Deaniacs,

the Democrats are third party material? They were the ones who energized our base. Joe's just jealous that he didn't get anybody as excited as Dean did.

[Miami Liberal]

38. I'd be suprised if Joe could even get his wife excited

[Mojambo]

33. If Howard Dean goes, I go with him

And by not naming him DNC chair they are effectively telling him, "Go."

Start your own party, Dr. Dean.

[fujiyama]

63. Dean isn't going anywhere

Fortunately he isn't as stupid to start a third party - that too at a time when the democrats are not going anywhere and when the country has taken a rightward turn. A third party would collapse in a way similar to the Reform Party. Parties centered around personalities simply don't last.

That said, I think Dean should be the DNC chair. He's good at fundraising and he did a great job debating the RWers during the election.

[TheWebHead]

34. I agree with Joe

putting in Dean right now would be the kiss of death to red state senators or governors in '06. Vilsack would make a more realistic choice than Dean to try and recapture the senate in '06. The Howard Dean wing of the Democratic party will not capture votes in any area of the country other than the already solidly blue states. That being said, I'd prefer Donna Brazile to Vilsack, but I've heard she doesn't want the job.

[WI_DEM]

37. how could it be worse than the defeat in red states in '04

with a moderate like Terry running the show? NC, SC, Fl, LA, GA, and SD senate races were lost. I don't buy that explanation. Besides, Vilsack is still a governor and I think DNC Chair should be a full time job.

[sonicx]

46. what would dean do that's the "kiss of death"?

if it's anything better than the last 2 elections, i'll take it.

[leesa]

60. BS. We don't want to be GOPers and that's what these appeasers are.

[MisterP]

35. Liebermush called Dean "Max Headroom": well, then Joe is Grossberg

it's like the old joke about the medieval doctors: when asked why a patient bleed to death, they said the leeching hadn't gone on long enough.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

36. Why should we care about Joe?

He got a collective yawn from the Dem electorate in the primaries.

Anything Joe says means nothing to me. Nothing at all.

[high density]

42. Screw Lieberman and Vilsack

Iowa is part of the problem. Let's think of our country instead of selfishly preserving months of Democratic circle jerk parties every primary season in Iowa.

[DaveinMD]

43. Vilsack

is a good governor and was able to win the seat back after years of Republican rule.

[JohnKleeb]

61. Yeah really I think either of those guys would be fine and I dont have a

dog in the race but either Vilsack or Dean would be fine as long as they raise money and have a strong voice, it doesnt matter if the guy is in agreement with us on the issues or not.

[Lone Pawn]

44. Lieberman is part of the establishment that's been losing since '94.

Kick his ass out.

[AgadorSparticus]

45. what do you expect from a republican?? i certainly don't expect

sore loserman to endorse a REAL democrat like Dean.

Liberman=Zell Miller

[mmonk]

47. I say Howard all the way.

[liberalequestrian]

54. I agree

I honestly believe we need someone to head up the party that will go in and kick elephant and take names later. Joe Lieberman and his band of conservative democrats with this he ho hum wimpy quiet attitude ARE NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE!!!

[Ladyhawk]

48. Has anyone noticed that "reaching out" to the right doesn't work?

:eyes:

[jjanpundt]

49. I wish he'd just sit down and shut up. He's such a

namby pamby whiner. He's gone through some kind of conditioning or something to be so different from when he was running as Gore's VP.

[Ladyhawk]

50. Got Lieberman's email? Let's tell him what we think. :) n/t

[fujiyama]

53. I would hope

that Kerry would stay out of this. It looks like it's going to be a nasty fight.

Vilsack seems like a decent enough guy...but we need a fighter at the top. We need someone that can go on TV and make a case.

Of all the top contendors for this, I think Dean would do the best job. My own personal preference is John Edwards, but I haven't seen any indication he's interested in it.

[Zorra]

55. Purge these damn DLC republicans from the party. Go Dean! Let's take

back the Democratic Party from the republicans!

[LiberteToujours]

56. The only good thing about Gore losing in 2000...

... is that Joe lost too. No one likes him. He just keeps losing, yet he still thinks he's relevant. As Arnold would say, why would we listen to a loser? Dean for DNC chair!

[leesa]

57. God I despise Joe Lieberman. Why doesn't he switch to his party

of allegiance. He is a warmongering GOP thug.


Kerry is what I thought he was...the GOP pick for Dem candidate. What a turncoat.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

58. There aren't any centrists left any more

They ones who were centrists in 2000 have gone Democratic this time. The Republicans made up for this with the religious fanatic and hardcore nazi vote and/or voter fraud.

[geek tragedy]

62. Fuck off, Quisling Joe.

Joe wants someone like Zell Miller or Tom DeLay.

Fuck him.

[MADem]

64. I'd love to invite Joe over for a cuppa JOE

...and instead, serve him a nice heaping cuppa STFU!

I think Dean would be GREAT in the job. Here's DEAN's challenge though--the DNC chair must be an OPERATIVE, and NEVER a CHALLENGER. Thus, Dean taking the job means no Dean Presidential candidacy in '08. I doubt that Lieberman wants Howard to run and win, but we don't need the right wing of the party trying to tell the remaining 90% of the flock who should lead us.

The thing I notice about Dean, he is very DIRECT, and that serves him, and us, WELL. We need more short sentences and plain speaking--it is a real grabber on the airwaves. Also, while Dean can get testy (and usually when he does, it is RIGHT ON POINT) he talks to you like a family doctor (they don't exist much anymore, but in the old days they did)--direct, to the point, not uncompassionate because he knows you and knows what you need, and knows that what he is saying is for your own good. And people who listen to him sense that.

Dean will have two years to get that essential element of communication, which he is ALREADY good at, down to a friken science, to the point where he will be THE coveted interview, THE highly desired guest, on the talking head programs. And we'll need a forceful, sensible, persuasive guy who can keep people with short attention spans LOCKED ON and listening, and HEARING his essential truths...just in time for the 06 midterms! By the time we are looking at 08, he'll be a GOD.

[Jimmy D]

65. Joe is more a republican than a Democrat nt

[RunningFromCongress]

66. I don't want to build a bridge to the right, thank you very much. ...

I have 0 interest in making this party go anymore towards the right, and my wallet agrees with me.

Kerry and Vilsak have been friends for a while so that's not very suprising.

[Ann Arbor Dem]

67. I might be way off the mark...

but I think that Vilsack won't be too much different than recent party leadership. If the party keeps moving to the right, we will become the repuke lite party. I guess that's what Lieberman wants. It's not what any Dem I know wants.

[IndianaGreen]

68. Holy Joe must be smoking some of that Joementum weed of his

Also, according to this Kerry is also supporting Vilsack from behind the scenes. The DNC chairmanship is becoming "Stop Howard Dean" movement.

No doubt, our fearless swift boat hero wants another crack at the nomination. Do we really want to hear more Vietnam stories in 2008? I don't think so!

[BlueInRed]

69. That clenches it! Dean for DNC

If Lieberman says no, we know it's a good thing.

[proudbluestater]

70. Did someone ask Joe for his opinion? WHY?

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[HelpIsOnTheWayDamnit]

73. no more Joementum!

ugh this guy is only a democrat in name only.

[Revolucionario83]

75. LIEberman needs to shut the FUCK UP!!!

[Gore1FL]

76. Coming from a a guy

who ran ads depicting the wonders of an Iraqi invasion, including toppling statues--

who couldn't carry a 3rd place finish in his own back yard--

who thinks removing under God from the pledge is worse than removing Democracy from America--

Screw him.

I can only wonder if his and Zell Miller's water comes from the same source. Minimally, the feeds to both houses are lead.