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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:58 PM
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Kerry has $45 Million left in campaign fund?
Isn't that a lot? Couldn't it have been used for campaign? For recount? What expenses would be left to pay off?

Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), who has $45 million left from his record-breaking Democratic campaign, hinted on Tuesday that he may try again for the presidency.

On his first workday back in the Senate since losing his White House bid, Kerry remained far from the spotlight, granting interviews to hometown reporters and joining the depleted corps of Democrats as they elected the party's new Senate leaders.

In his first extensive interview since his Nov. 2 defeat, Kerry was asked by the Fox News affiliate in Boston about running again in 2008 and reminded the questioner that Ohio is still counting votes from 2004.

He then said, "It is so premature to be thinking about something that far down the road. What I've said is I'm not opening any doors, I'm not shutting any doors." Kerry added, "If there's a next time, we'll do a better job. We'll see."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&u=/ap/20041116/ap_on_go_co/kerry_3&printer=1

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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:00 PM
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1. kerry had his chance nt
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:01 PM
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4. Been there done that got the t-shirt.
Thanks.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:20 PM
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14. . . . and the $45 million to go with the t-shirt . . .
Oh well, at least someone came out ahead after 11/3.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:09 AM
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32. Actually I have 5 t-shirts
All waiting for 4 more years. Bumper sticker and button at the ready.

Gotta stand for something. He was worth working for in 2004, he will be worth working for again in 2008.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:07 PM
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9. Agreed. Won't do the foot soldiering thing next time. nor the calling
nor the contributing.
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:00 PM
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2. Wasn't he the one who promised to make
sure every vote was counted? 45 freaking million dollars? I don't know about you but my contributions to his campaign this year weren't easy for me to make.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:02 PM
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5. Same here - maybe we should ask for a rebate
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 08:03 PM by RamboLiberal
:evilgrin:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:28 AM
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35. Same here - I said earlier that I donated so much to Kerry I was
beginning to feel like one of Pat Robertson's followers; donating money that I could use for something else. Now I see how you could easily fall into that trap - no more for me, ever. I have less money and he has 45 million he certainly doesn't need.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:07 PM
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8. Damn! After all that DNC poormouthing!
Maybe I'll submit an invoice for my volunteer hours...

I spread my money around to various lost causes, but the DNC and the Ohio Dems got a good chunk of my change.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:01 PM
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3. Anyone see Kerry going up against Romney for gov of Mass?
That'd be interesting.
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:45 PM
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19. I don't even see...
romney running for reelection. look for him to go after ted's seat, or run (HAHAHAHA) for president.

the fucker wears $10,000 suits.

whalerider55
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:59 AM
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38. And he is one EVIL GOP BASTARD
I know I am not the only one who thinks that Election Theft 2004 was first tried out a couple of years back in many 'experimental regions,' on local levels, including Western Massachusetts. To great success.

I cannot stand Mitt the shit. He's actually made me adore the admittedly rabid partisans in the state legislature, simply because they know how to fuck with him like he's never been fucked with before. The shock, horror, and total confusion on his blank, numb face when they slam him is a delightful sight.

He is a lameass governor, a sniveling cretin, and I am hoping he will go back to his real home state of Utah and fuck with them for awhile (deepest, sincerest apologies to any Utah Democrats here, I encourage you to move to the northern BLUE--though you'd probably find him liberal in comparison to most of what you have now).

He is a hideous, whining man who cannot even be bothered, as governor, to spend any time or money in his alleged home state. The carpetbagging sumbitch cannot even go to the Cape in the summer--he has to go to NH. And in winter, does he frequent any of our vacation spots? Why no! He dashes back to his Utah home!

I'd like him to permanently vacation in Utah. He sucks. Bad, bad, evil man.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:05 PM
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6. who's to say it was not set aside for this
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:06 PM
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7. Ohio is still counting votes from 2004 - !!!!
"In his first extensive interview since his Nov. 2 defeat, Kerry was asked by the Fox News affiliate in Boston about running again in 2008 and reminded the questioner that Ohio is still counting votes from 2004." -

:evilgrin:
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:11 PM
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10. I hope it's true
I'm scared of another 4 years. I am pissed at Kerry though for quitting so soon and leaving the dirty work of recounts to the 3rd parties.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:11 PM
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11. And that's not counting the money for the legal defense
I think that is 11 or 12 million.

And I think it's pretty sad, while people are donating several times, & can't really afford it.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:14 PM
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12. Anyone know how much * has left in his war chest?
I'd love a comparison. I'm getting slowly pissed to find out Kerry has $45 mill left.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:15 PM
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13. Give it a rest.
What do you want him to do, wear a hair shirt? $45 million? We don't know that for a fact. I'm sure not all the bills are paid yet.
The guy lost a close election. Somebody has to lose; too bad it was us; but don't start acting all pissed off about the campaign fund.

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:24 PM
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15. Hard for some of us not to...
...we remember 2002, when the DNC was saying that there was little chance of defeating Bush in 2004, and so they were going to use the cycle for party building and fund raising.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:25 PM
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16. If I find out * spent his
and I find out months from now Kerry is sitting on some substantial amount after I dug deep every month to contribute - then I have a right to be pissed.

And I have a right to be pissed that Kerry went dark in August to save money when the SBVL's were doing their damage!

IMHO Kerry's biggest mistake was opting for the Federal funds following the convention. He should've trusted us to have his back.

And does he have ours now?
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:30 PM
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17. I hope Kerry has some large outstanding debts to pay off.
Otherwise, I will be really pissed off.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:50 PM
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21. Exactly!
So what are we saying here, we only back winners with a money back guarantee? I don't have bucks to spare - but I'm glad to have given what I could. You back a candidate, you don't turn on them and whine @ $$$ when they lose. I made a choice, I gave $$$ and sweat and heart - and I stand by that choice now. Anything left, I trust him to apply to further the fights that made me choose him to begin with. Hopefully that will also include the 2004 WH. If I didn't trust, I wouldn't have contributed to them - I wouldn't have voted for them. I do not blow w/the wind.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:52 PM
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22. No, you give it a rest!
People donate to a candidate, thinking those funds will be spent on the campaign.

Then, they set up a defense fund, which raised quite a bit.

I see plenty of people who are not well off economically, giving Kerry money for his campaign.

And no, fat chance he will be wearing a hair shirt. Not while he's married to Theresa.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:08 AM
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40. I have heard...
...that he will be strategically and tactically doling out a goodly chunk of whatever dough he has left to genuinely promising '06 congressional candidates. It won't be a blanket dole, it will be targeted to potentially strong candidates who just need "message money."

I don't begrudge him. Anything he has left after he helps with the '06 push will be needed to establish offices, rehire workers, and get the machine going. You can't do it on love alone. I'll be willing to support him next go-round. I personally think he won this one...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:42 PM
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18. It should be donated to the RECOUNT cause.
I still can't believe he has just walked away from this fight. I'm still pissed as hell. :grr:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:48 PM
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20. Let Kerry the coward bastard give it all back.
Screw him and all his worthless promises. The man at this point makes me sick!
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:56 PM
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23. What
He needs the money to pay the 2nd mortgage he took on his house on Beacon Hill when the chips were down. Give the guy a break he's destitute.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:03 PM
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24. you best remember something
Your man only won because of the deep fraud he was willing to pull on this once great nation. Take this to the bank and I mean it with everything in me...I am patiently waiting for all hell to break loose to personally hunt down as many of these freeper fascist fucks I can get my hands on.

At this point it can't happen soon enough!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:05 AM
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30. What deep fraud?
What the Sam Hill are you talking about? You're answering someone who's talking about Kerry not Bush.

Kerry committed deep fraud?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:45 PM
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41. ?
the poster replied with this; "He needs the money to pay the 2nd mortgage he took on his house on Beacon Hill when the chips were down. Give the guy a break he's destitute." This comment was in reference to Kerry. This is the same smear line the repukes used through out Kerry's campaign. Now do you finally get the picture?

As pissed off as I am at Kerry at no time did I ever insinuate that he committed fraud. I am as pissed as pissed can be for Kerry's total lack of communicating the fraud that took place and also his total lack of public speaking after the election. It's as if they are waiting for the right politically safe moment to speak. We need out front strength at this time not more of what we had over the last 4 years plus weaker leadership.

Next time read the thread more carefully before you post a comment.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:05 AM
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31. And I wii be right there with you, AmerDem
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:04 PM
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25. His mortgage loan was only $6 million
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:51 PM
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27. Get ye back!
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JDStutts Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:06 PM
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26. This had better be wrong
further in the story it says "Kerry had roughly $45 million left in his primary campaign fund as of mid-October and could use that as seed money for another presidential bid. In addition, he had about $7 million on hand in a legal and accounting compliance fund that he could use for legal expenses in a 2008 campaign."

52 million? WTF? When the polls showed a neck and neck race for weeks, why would you hold back 52 million? It doesn't make any sense.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:46 PM
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28. Part of it needs to go to recount votes and investigate fraud
and he knows it.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:00 AM
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29. Crap!
IF thats true I want a refund.
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 AM
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33. That's terrible
I thought he would leave it all out on the floor. What could have happened with 20 million more in Ohio and 20 million more in New Mexico, and Nevada.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 AM
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34. I'm wondering if spending that money on ads in Ohio
might have made a big difference... I want my money back if it was not used for the campaign. I donated to the campaign!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:05 AM
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39. Surely as a battleground they were saturated in ads already
I know we were.

What were the terms under which you donated.

And where specifically did that money come from that Kerry still has. Is it DNC money? Did he use our money and save the money he got from Federal Election Commission?

I need to know more.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 AM
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36. maybe he could pay Dean royalties for the stump speech he snatched
and used.

Seriously, he should be using it to prove the BBV machines are a nightmare.
But I guess we shouldn't be crying in our tea-cups.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:01 AM
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37. 45,000,000 = money that wasn't used to fight the Swift Shit ads
What a waste...
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