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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:11 AM
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Anyone else as sick of the term "insurgents" as I am?
What are these "insurgents" fighting against?

A FOREIGN OCCUPIER!

ANYONE who is against the Bush cartel is an "insurgent".

How many people would become an "insurgent" if THEIR country was occupied?

I'm so sick of this!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:13 AM
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1. It's a little trick ...
to dehumanize the enemy. Otherwise they won't be able to sell the other "51%" on the myth of "liberation" - if they call them Iraqis.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:13 AM
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2. They have been using this term because they knew that they were not
Al Qaeda but using this term could lull innocent voters to think that they were, and thus justify the war in Iraq as part o the war on terror.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:16 AM
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3. Get used to it.
Remember Afghanistan? Insurgencies last forever.
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:03 AM
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15. uh huh. * doesn't want this war to end, we have no reason to invade Iran,
so we have to keep the profits coming from this war....also maintaining a permanent presence.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:19 AM
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4. yesterday they were terrorists
barbarians, insurgents, terrorists.
you see, they don't know the proper way of decapitating. civil people use cluster bombs................
these evil doers wear civilian clothing, therefor all civilians are the enemy combatants.
seriously, stop listening/watching the news.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:01 AM
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11. Don't forget "thugs".
The nerve of those "thugs"...fighting back when we occupy their oil-rich nation, bombing anything that moves.

If our country were invaded by a stronger country, & if we fought back, would they call us terrorists? THINK about that.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:29 AM
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13. the sad fact is that we are the strongest
we have the biggest guns
we are the bully of the planet.
and shame on us.
looking more and more like we will have a civil war here of sorts, and you and me, baby will be the insurgents.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:21 AM
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5. It actually is an alternative
It is the lame stream media's concession word, actually. The word that the cowboy administration prefers is "terrist" ... or should I say terrorist, for thinking, spelling people.

But how can you call someone whose perception is that they are defending their homeland a terrorist? The default is "insurgent." It's a word that works for them--it encompasses anyone who is not thrilled with the concept of "weecowboy liberation," but who does not necessarily support all of the Pan Arab dreams of Usama. It includes these people, sure, but it also includes the "get the fuck out of my yard" nationalists.

It has limited emotion attached to it. "Freedom figher" implies support for the movement, "criminals" or "terrorists" implies opposition. "Insurgent" is the word for people who don't want to take a stand. It's a 'Just the facts, Sir/Ma'am' type of word.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:22 AM
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6. I much prefer it to
dead-enders, Saddam loyalists, assorted criminals, foreign fighters like the evil al qaeda, and various other disguises thrown over the truth.
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:24 AM
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7. The problem is
* is the greatest recruiter for new "insurgents" and terrorists that they could have.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:27 AM
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8. call them what they are, Iraqis
but the administration doesn't want to do this because we are supposedly LIBERATING the Iraqis. Sure, there are a few foreign fighters among them, but the majority are exactly that, Iraqis.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:33 AM
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9. I'd agree with a few conditions
I'd say at this point most of these guys we're fighting really are Iraqis. The conditional is that some of these are bona fide foreigners as well. Having said that though, not all these Iraqis are fighting to protect home and family. Some are simply in it to try and impose their totalitarian rule upon others. Then you have nationalists who are fighting for a free, independent country. It's the many faces of the resistance.

I call them resistance fighters rather than that PR "insurgent" crap. It may not sound as sexy as "insurgent," but it's more descriptive of what they're doing: They're resisting us being there.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:38 AM
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10. Knowing the age of the "insurgents" would be sobering.
Half of all Iraqis are under age 18. Further, descriptions of battles have included references to teenagers.

I bet a lot of the fighters left in Fallujah are just young kids, angry because their nation, their town, and their families have been devastated.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:27 AM
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12. Many of the "insurgents" are 15 year old Iraqis
fighting against our occupation of their country. We are right and they are wrong because of? Bush sold America down the river to benefit his buds. What he did to our military kids is even worse.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:36 AM
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14. "We're all insurgents now"-nt
nt
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:36 AM
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16. You mean the
IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:22 AM
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17. The term is "untidy"
As we have been told by Herr Uberfuhrer of War Rumsfeld many things about was are "untidy".

They just love euphemisms for their little War on Iraq (tm) chapter of their larger War on Terror (tm).
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