Bizarre idea alert! What if Dems and Greens all joined the Repub party?

[MoonRiver]

If you combine these groups with moderate to liberal Repubs, perhaps by sheer numbers alone we could recreate the party of Lincoln, with a liberal twist. Or could we? Is the rightwing machine so entrenched in our society that even a massive influx of liberals into the Repub party would be incapable of stopping it?

I guess this crazy notion is just a sign of my growing despair with our current national and geopolitical situation, as well as the seeming inability of the Dem leadership to confront this growing threat to democracy.

:argh:

[Mist]

1. I'd thought of this too

It's one way to head off a lot of voter interference. Confuse and confabulate! It would be tough getting enough people to do it though.

[MoonRiver]

4. I'd be willing to if I knew there were a massive movement and many

would be joining me. Otherwise, the thought makes me ill.

[bemildred]

2. There is much to be said for throwing sand into the machine. nt

[German-Lefty]

3. at the local party level this will work.

You might be able to make the Republican party platform progressive in New York. For the most part we have enough problems just keeping the democratic platform progressive.

[ibegurpard]

5. One thing to consider...if voter fraud is as serious as many think

then the candidate supported by the powers that be will ALWAYS win, no matter what.

[MoonRiver]

6. That's a real concern.

If our numbers were great enough we could get decent SOSs in place and throw out the bbvs though.

[rniel]

7. I would love that

For once we could hear Rush Limbaugh begging people to not vote Republican this year.

[texastoast]

8. This is being thought about

I've been listening to depressed Dems threatening to join the pukes with the infiltration motive. What makes me gleeful is that there is NOTHING they can do about it if our numbers are large enough.

We can stop that right-wing machine. Together. The deal with Dems is that we are not lockstep. This is good in many ways. In other ways, it splinters our power.

I think we need to establish issue priority and I don't know how to do this with such a diverse group of intelligent people. Nor do I know of a way to do it without having the lower priority issue people walk away in a huff.

Ideas?

[MoonRiver]

9. One thing I believe is that such a movement

would have to happen very quickly and involve huge numbers of us. I liken it to a hostile corporate take-over. If it didn't occur on this level the extremist Repubs would have time to marginalize our influence. Then, many of us would get discouraged and drift away. We'd be back to square one. Doing such a radical thing as joining a party I have learned to despise would be hard enough. I would need to see results pretty fast to keep up the facade.

[johnnie]

10. I would do it

I love two things..chaos and fucking with people. I truly believe that if something radical isn't done soon, the country will eventually destroy itself. It's ok by me because I have no children to worry about. But I do feel sad for all the people who will have to watch as their children grow up in a country on the verge of collapse.

[texastoast]

11. In view of the other rumblings and grumblings today

this one deserves a great big kick.

:kick:

[MoonRiver]

12. :-)

None of us here are happy campers right now. The question is what are we Dems going to do about it. I know my idea is incredibly radical, but our two parties have gone through similar take-overs and transformations before. Just look at what the Repub party stood for during Civil War days. Why, looking at its platform, one might just conclude it was today's Democratic Party! So I say, let's at least consider taking back the party of Lincoln.

[Blue_Tires]

13. it couldn't happen overnight

it may happen over a course of years

[AgadorSparticus]

14. it seems sometimes that is what they've done to the democratic

party already. when i read your post, that final scene from matrix revolutions popped into my head--the final fight between neo and agent smith. neo finally lets agent smith infect him and then went to town infecting all the smiths.

[MoonRiver]

15. I think the Dem party sold its soul to try and lure Repubs over.

That hasn't worked very well, and we've just about lost our base to boot. As the Dem party shows itself to be increasingly ineffectual, many of us will start trying out some new strategies.

[AgadorSparticus]

16. i agree. it has caused alot of apathy in the years. i think that is one

reason why howard dean experienced a meteoric rise. this election is leaving a bad taste in my mouth--and not just because of the outcome and how we came to the results as we did. i am equally disgusted with how we reacted to the results.

BUT i am not entirely there yet. like i've said in other posts, i will give them through december to redeem themselves. i will give them the benefit of the doubt of fighting under the radar. if not, i have to admit, i'm right there with you on searching for new strategies. i don't want to support something that is busy chasing its tail. to be so stubbornly ineffective is just as bad as being apathetic to me.

[MoonRiver]

17. 'm giving them until January also.

It horrifies me to think about joining the Repub party, but if I decide that is the only way to effectively bring about change, by God I'll do it, for the sake of my country.

[AgadorSparticus]

18. all i can say is, you must be a person of iron gut! kudos to you.

really. i'm not sure i can stomach all that. i cannot even handle 30 minutes of nightly news. but i will fight in my own way.

[MoonRiver]

19. Doesn't mean I'd watch the news any more than now, which is never.

I probably am just blowing smoke, but it's a pretty good rant, after all! Seriously though, it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about spouting my progressive opinions at a local RNC meeting!
:evilgrin:

[AgadorSparticus]

20. sheer evil genius. LOL and you know, i'd cheer you every step of

the way too. c'mon, do it! do it! stick your tongue on the frozen lamp post. it won't hurt. LOL :evilgrin:

[MoonRiver]

21. OK, now that I know you've got my back!

Maybe I'll start a blog called "A Covert Dem Agent's Report from the Dark Side" :D

[AgadorSparticus]

22. oooh. how exciting. you'll be "embedded". :D

i'm breaking one of my house rules. the words "embedded" and "resolve" are not allowed in my house anymore.

[MoonRiver]

27. Hey, AgadorSparticus,

do you think this thread is sending our freeper lurkers into fits? Their little limited imaginations must be running wild with the terrible possibilities! :bounce:

[AgadorSparticus]

28. god, i hope so. that would be too delicious. but oh the possibilities...

[AgadorSparticus]

23. you mean you'll watch the news for me?

:evilgrin:

[MoonRiver]

24. Now that's asking too much.

I'll still get my news from DU, Buzzflash and Democracy Now!.

[AgadorSparticus]

30. ROFL!! sorry, sorry. with your iron gut and all, i forgot you are still

only human.

[Contrary1]

25. Joining and Belonging

are two different things. If nothing else, it would
sure screw up their polls.

[MoonRiver]

26. Yes, I'd definitely never give them money,

unless and until we got our progressive Lincolnesque candidates on the ballots.
:kick:

[gordianot]

29. I had a friend who used to compare Republicans with Soviet Communist Party

He stated the desire of Republicans was really a one party system. Today there are lots of arguments in favor of that. He actually wrote a paper in College with that thesis but the instructor did not like the idea.

Today 30 years later I wonder if he was not right. I could see Republican commissars. Look what happened to Soviet style Communists. I think there are those today who are actually Republicans and those who think (oxymoron: think) they are Republicans.

A class of thinking Republicans would be a novel idea.