how are freepers responding to Specter appt?

[Doomsayer13]

Specter got the chairmanship after much deliberation, and I'm sure this is sending the freepers off the deep end (if they weren't there already). There's nothing I enjoy more than watching freepers eat eachother.

[Catfight]

1. I'm surprised Bush stood up to those crazy ass freepers. They

practically threatened Bush if they didn't get their way. I fully thought Bush is afraid of them, God knows, when your crazy ass supporters go off the deep end it won't be pretty, they made him they can destroy him, simple as that. I somehow think Bush is sending a signal to his loyalist or he is playing with his own future, because when these people turn against you, there's no hold bar, they'll do ANYTHING in the name of God to get their way. They have no boundaries or respect for human dignity.

[TexasSissy]

3. Bush is one of those "crazy ass freepers." He doesn't pander

to the Christian far right. He IS the Christian far right.

[calico1]

13. Bush doesn't have to pander because

he doesn't have to worry about reelection. I wonder how the Fundies will feel when everything doesn't go their way and they don't get all that was promised to them?

[blondeatlast]

23. Radical TheoCons.

Wish I could claim it as mine, but someone on Kos came up with it.

[Doomsayer13]

6. it wasn't a bush thing

I think Bush sat this one out. It was a Senate thing. Specter won the support of his colleagues, including Orrin Hatch and Rick Santorum.

[izzie]

14. Their was a group on the TV that were not happy.

They said no one would get their vote next time etc. They really sounded mean. I would say Bush does not care as he is in office now. Wait to all these people see all this. And guess who does have to run another time. Those Sen. will be the ones that pay. It is almost as if we could believe the union people got all they wanted when they got behind a President or Sen. People should wake up. These guys in the WH and congress have really big egos. No way are they going to do as the people who put them there want. They are first for them self.

[Bush was AWOL]

18. I saw that

and those people seriously want Roe overturned. Tough shit for them cause even most Republicans know deep down that it would be a mistake and have no intention of overturning an issue they can use against Democrats. I think there will be hell to pay if it is not overturned, and if Specter gets the position Frist can forget about running in 08.

[TexasSissy]

2. He got it? Wow. That's sweet. Specter must have some

political clout, to get the appt. with so many of the far right being against him.

Could it be that he has agreed to forego his distaste for far right candidates, in order to get the appt.? I hope not.

[Walt Starr]

4. Specter got it because otherwise there would be no whipping boy

Specter will be blamed for Roe not being overturned by 2006. Watch.

The last thing in the world the Neocons need right now is a SCOTUS that overturns Roe v Wade.

[zbdent]

5. Heard he got Hatch's support

so there must be a receipt floating around somewhere - "in exchange for one soul - to be redeemed at first anti-abortion confirmation hearing" . . .

[pmbryant]

20. He got it by promising to be a patsy for the far right, no doubt

He'll approve anything Bush sends his way.

--Peter

[Patiod]

7. I wouldn't be shocked if he threatened to resign

or change parties if he didn't get it. Not that it would tip any balances, but they don't want another Dem (which would be almost guaranteed) in the Senate. And not that he would have actually followed-through on it, but still...

[leftynyc]

9. I think you hit the nail on the head

Also, Specter has been around a while and no doubt knows where some of the skeletons are buried. I'm guessing he threatened them.

[Teaser]

12. No. Spector lost this battle.

Just not as openly as he might have lost it. He is now a yes man for the admin.

[leftynyc]

21. He has no need to do that

He's already said he's not running again. They can't touch him. I also agree with the poster that said that overturning roe would hurt the pukes...they need the issue to keep their rubes voting.

[cali]

8. Specter does NOT have the chairmanship yet

They don't even vote on it until late Jan. or early Feb. Freepers are, however, totally enraged by the support lent him by Hatch and others. They're spinning out of control and making threats.

[Doomsayer13]

10. yeah, but he has it in the bag

barring massive disaster, he's won the support of his colleauges.

[Teaser]

11. This was the plan. Spector's been chastened.

He now knows how precarious his chairmanship is, and how much it hinges on Bush's goodwill.

He won't be bucking a single judge Bush sends him. Not a single one.

[WMliberal]

15. probably no different than we are to Reid getting Minority Leader. eom

[Doomsayer13]

19. there IS a difference

Specter has been a consistent moderate who has defied his party, while Reid has been a consistent partisan who is liberal on nearly ALL issues besides choice and silver mining (that he comes from the silver state should be indicative as to why).

[WMliberal]

22. and guns.

he's not that liberal... mining is a HUGE source of pollution. So, he's only an environmentalist as far as his wallet is concerned.
We could have done a LOT better than Reid. Most people on this board seem to agree. The same is being said on the other side about Specter as head of Judicial committee. He's moderate on some issues, staunch conservative on others (hasn't voted against a SINGLE * nominee).

[Doomsayer13]

24. one has to represent one's state

silver mining is a crucial part of Nevada's economy - how could he not be pro-silver mining? I swear, sometimes environmentalists take things too far.

He's a solid green on all other environmental issues. In addition, his gun record isn't necessarily pro-gun

2003  On the votes that the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence considered to be the most important as of 2003, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 71 percent of the time. These scores are cumulative for each representative's time in their current office. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence considered votes from 1988-2003 in the House and 1991-2003 in the Senate when determining these scores.

2003  Based on the results of a questionnaire the Gun Owners of America assigned Senator Reid a 10

2002  On the votes that the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence considered to be the most important as of 2002, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 71 percent of the time. These scores are cumulative for each representative's time in their current office. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence considered votes from 1988-2002 in the House and 1991-2002 in the Senate when determining these scores.

2001-2002  Based on the results of a questionnaire the Gun Owners of America assigned Senator Reid a grade of F (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F-).

1999-2000  On the votes that the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence considered to be the most important in 1999-2000 , Senator Reid voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

1999-2000  Based on the results of a questionnaire the Gun Owners of America assigned Senator Reid a grade of F (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F-).

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0561103

I still think people are giving him the raw deal in DU. But then again, I don't think anybody here would be satisfied with any Democrat in the leadership - being in the leadership means having to compromise, put forth an acceptable image, and hold together different factions of the party. Even if Durbin or Kucinich were leader, people would still be complaining, I swear.

[Bush was AWOL]

16. Are you sure he got it?

I saw on CSPAN a rally held by a bunch of religious preachers and freepers outside of Frist's office, and they seemed to think they could prevent Specter from getting the role.

If Specter rejects any of Bush's nominee's these people basically said the Republican party would pay for it. Well, they also said that if Specter got the position they'd pay as well. We'll see.

[Doomsayer13]

17. picked up the paper today, that's what it said

granted, he hasn't officially gotten it yet - that'll have to wait until the first session of 2005 - but he's gotten Republican support

[K rock]

25. Specter is my senator,

I will always vote Arlen. He is one of the last real repubs left, and he is a true centrist. You people should have seen the crazy freeper they ran against him in the primaries. Pat Toomey, remember that name. "Vote Toomey, because Specter just isn't crazy enough."

[Doomsayer13]

26. yeah, that guy was nuts

major fundie support. I was half hoping he'd win so that Hoeffel would stand a chance to overtake the seat.