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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:51 AM
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So Im watching the Clinton Library Dedication
And I see John Kerry and get so depressed. I was JUST starting to crawl out of this post partum election funk, then I see him there and get bummed all over again.

Ah geez, this sucks.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:53 AM
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1. Focus on the Big Dog
He'll cheer you up.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:53 PM
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87. the big dog looked a little out of it, i have to say.
he stared at the cameras for like 12 seconds with a blank look on his face.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:54 AM
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2. I just turned it on and there was C*andy Crowly
EEEEWWWWW!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:55 AM
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3. focus on karma
because its a bitch, and its coming for the american taliban.

BIG TIME.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:00 PM
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5. I hope you are right....
my significant other keeps saying that hubris is going to bring down this administration. I certainly hope so.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:56 AM
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4. That's exactly how I felt
I have it on C-SPAn on my computer and when I saw Kerry I got dpressed all over again.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:11 PM
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6. There comes Gore... why can so many americans be so dumb
passed up 2 great presidents
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:11 PM
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7. I just put it on...
...my computer at work on C-SPAN3. Looks like they got lousy weather -- all the dignitaries are carrying umbrellas. That's too bad. Wish I could see it on a real TV.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:14 PM
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9. I only get C-SPAN 1 on my teevee
so I'm watching on MSNBC. And I wish Tweety would just STFU. He's freakin bipolar. and Pat just said that Tipper Gore is a "fine looking woman." Ewwwwwwwwwwww.

MUTE!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:23 PM
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12. I thought Tipper looked exceptionally good today
I kept thinking if that were ME in all that rain, I'd be a freakin' mess - frizzy hair, dripping makeup, and wow, Tipper looks great!
She also looks very nice in that burgundy / merlot color she's wearing.

I will not comment on Al because I love him too much.

All these poor folks out there in that rain!

The piano /organ / synth player and some of the singers were ABSOLUTELY SOAKED.

Dang - now all the first ladies are coming out together.
Everyone doing okay, 'cept Babs - she looks hateful as usual...
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:28 PM
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15. ok, now Tipper has donned a yellow rain poncho
too bad, covered up her pretty outfit, but I think it is raining harder!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:30 PM
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16. The Ewww was for Pat Buchanan saying it. :)
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:34 PM
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18. oh I know, just funny that both Pat & me thought so - ha, ha! -eom
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:42 PM
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23. Re: Al .... It's Hard To Lose Weight...
Maybe he will be back in 08...

Tan, rested, svelte, and ready...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:12 PM
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8. Wow, Al Gore's put on some weight.
(and I miss Kerry too.)
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:15 PM
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10. I noticed that, too
He looks fatter.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:19 PM
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11. That was my reaction, too
He needs to go on a diet, big time.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:25 PM
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13. DRAMA ALERT - the last 4 prezs now!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:25 PM
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14. Poor Bill
He has to be with both shrubs on his special day.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:38 PM
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20. ewwwwwwww, right?
The LAST thing I want to see on THIS day at THIS event is a member of the BFEE
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:33 PM
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17. the "1st couples" all keep hitting each other w/their umbrellas
gotta appreciate the ridiculous humor in some of this stuff

W kept getting smacked by the umbrella edges of both Chelsea's and his own umbrella (held by Laura) so he grabbed it away (typical) from Laura and is now holding it himself.

Babs gave a nasty look to Carter on her right when her umbrella got bumped by his.

A little comic relief in all the forced diplomacy going on on that stage.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:37 PM
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19. Poppy Bush with his mouth hanging open during the prayer....LOL!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:41 PM
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21. and Hillary got a case of the giggles during the prayer too
Bill looks like he is analyzing everything, taking in all the details. CSPAN3 has a camera trained on his face and he looks very intense (kinda like a stage mgr for the event). Relax Bill!

Dumbya looks, well, clueless as usual

Chelsea looks very nice
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:41 PM
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22. I watching some of it now. Wonder what they are all thinking?
Bill - "All of this is so nice."

Hillary - "I am so proud of Bill."

Chelsea - not saying anything (thinking about her wedding)

George - "So glad it's raining, heh heh."

Laura - "George, they're not waving at you."

Jimmy - "I don't think my opening was like this."

Rosalyn - "It was still great, Jimmy."

George Sr. - "I don't want to be here!"

Barbara - "Neither do I! I hate these damn democrats!"
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:42 PM
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24. You nailed it!
I have to say, this is a great people watching event!
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:43 PM
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25. LMAO!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:49 PM
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27. Perfect!
Are you a screenwriter or something?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:14 PM
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37. No, just having some fun.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:04 PM
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30. Chelsea's engaged?
I didn't know that.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:13 PM
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35. It's a rumor, I think
but it could be true. She's been with her boyfriend for years.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:15 PM
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38. I am sure she will be engaged in the future, most young
ladies dream about their wedding day.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:27 PM
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56. Oh... I thought I had missed the news or something
It would have been weird if this had slipped by me, as I read People magazine every week. :)
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:56 PM
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100. LOL cat_girl25
I was thinking the basicly the same thing when I watched it! But when I seen Kerry and Gore to me both were thinking when it came down to chimp "You SOB if I could get a hold of your sorry a$$ right now"
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:47 PM
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26. This is so bittersweet
It reminds us of how much good was done during Bill's 8 years in the WH, but it also reminds us of how bad things have been and will continue to be if things keep going in monkeyface's direction. He's such a do-nothing. Keep counting those votes! We need to turn this around.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:52 PM
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29. Shrub is probably gagging at all of this
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:55 PM
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90. That's okay because we have been gagging on his putrid garbage
for 4 years. Still have another 4 years of :puke: with regard to the chimp.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:50 PM
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28. Laughed when * lifted up Laura's umbrella
like it was her dress then * ducked under Chelsea's umbrella...

What was up with Poppy's super secret tan spy coat?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:05 PM
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31. I did too - his body language betrays his prickishness
he is soooo like his mother it is not even funny
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:05 PM
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32. Tweety LAUGHED OUT LOUD at Kerry's trenchcoat.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:06 PM by VolcanoJen
When Kerry first emerged wearing the trenchcoat, Tweety and Pat Buchanan literally hooted in hysterical laughter.

"Where's the yellow barn coat?" laughed Tweety. "Guess it's not so lucky after all!!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfuckingHA.

And we wonder why we lost, when the media remains obsessed with outerwear instead of issues.

:grr:
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:15 PM
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39. I fired off a hot email to MSNBC about Tweety's inane
coverage of the dedication. He keeps harping on the impeachment and scandals. Told them the only reason I tuned in was to watch the ceremony. No more. I'll watch Olbermann but not the rest of their hate spewing drivel. Told them people who tuned in to watch were fans of The Big Dog and wanted to focus on all the wonderful things accomplished during his tenure and not re-hash all of the old GOP partisan venom. That there are millions and millions of people who look fondly on the Clinton days of peace, world respect, and booming economy. Then suggested that Matthews needs a new challenge - like in down town Fallujah, alone, at night, unarmed. Too much to hope for that they would actually take my suggest to heart.

Can Tweety get any more petty?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:23 PM
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49. That was a good email. Someone started a thread on how
MSNBC is constantly bashing Clinton.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:56 PM
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99. Loved your letter .... Iike the "send him to Fallujah" theme...
I think I'll send one my self and reinforce ! Ive quit watching ALL MSNBC except Olbermann ... I sent them a letter to that effect the other day!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:07 PM
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33. Ok, the Columbian kids are cute.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:08 PM
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34. Even SHRUB is charmed by Clinton!
The Big Dog is relaying a story and Shrub is leaning in close, enthralled...."wow, he talks good, I'm so jealous"

You know the shrub so wants to be the Big Dog.

"Damn I hate it that I'm in love with him" (<--shrub's pea brain)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:15 PM
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40. Clinton Almost Made Bush* Look Human (nt)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:19 PM
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43. ooooh, here he comes
The genius -- let's see what stupid thing he can say.

Also, you heard 41 -- never give up, keep on fighting. Let's remember that.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:14 PM
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36. Interesting how Carter...
...didn't say anything about little shrub.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:19 PM
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42. he did congratulate him on his win -eom
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:21 PM
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46. That's about it
He said some nice things about 41, but kept it minimal for 43.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:20 PM
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45. Does anyone know why President Ford isn't there?
Is he not feeling well? And did I answer my own question?:-)
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:25 PM
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52. that would be my guess -eom
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:28 PM
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58. Yes, he's not in good health
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:18 PM
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41. Ew, "that goes for 43 too"
how self-serving.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:20 PM
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44. Now it's Shrub's turn
What a dope. And a FAUX Texan. Knock off the fake Bubba accent already!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:24 PM
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50. I wonder...
how much of this he really believes? He must have had a Democrat write his speech. None of his cronies would have been able to do it -- oh, I forgot. Maybe they could have -- they're so used to lying.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:22 PM
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47. To be fair, I gotta say, Poppy gave a pretty nice speech
He was funny and self-deprecating and seemed genuinely warm towards Clinton. In effect, reflected on how you mellow out a little after leaving office and come to admire your fellow prez club mbrs.

I was pleasantly surprised - so who was that pod and what did he do w/Poppy?

OK, now Shrub Jr is on and being snarky and sarcastic as usual.

Nostalgic, warm fuzzy break OVER!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:26 PM
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54. I agree.
I don't take the sins of the son out on the father.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:27 PM
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55. I did enjoy the "looking at his watch" explanation...
... and the way he acknowledged that Clinton beat the stuffing out of him at those debates. :D
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:30 PM
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62. that WAS funny. His "boy" could learn from him. -eom
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:23 PM
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48. Good points Max and Claire
I too think hubris will be the downfall of W and the far right. They can only go so far without alienating the majority. However, I hope they don't go down immediately, as that could take the rest of us down. We shouldn't all pay the price for others' misdeeds.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:25 PM
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51. Clinton looks like he's about to cry at times.
Aw, don't cry honey. I'm here for you!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:26 PM
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53. U2!!!! Oh hell yeh!!!
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:27 PM by VolcanoJen
:bounce:

Doing "Rain" by the Beatles!! AWESOME!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:28 PM
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57. Oh, man, that was GREAT.
I (heart) Bono!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:29 PM
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60. Sunday Bloody Sunday????
Wow.

I loved the way Bono changed the "Rain" lyrics:

"When the rain comes, we run and hide our heads
We got Four Presidents out of bed..."
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:31 PM
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65. Interesting Choice...
Beautiful Day would have been more appropriate...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:32 PM
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68. Changing lyrics: "Indifference is our real enemy."
Amazing.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:33 PM
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70. That was Kerry's theme song
:(
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:35 PM
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75. it was a reference to Clinton's contribution to the Irish peace process
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:36 PM
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77. Makes Sense Now..
nt
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:29 PM
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59. I feel sorry for Chelsea
why did they seat #43 next to her?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:31 PM
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64. LOL
"Luck" of the draw, I guess.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:32 PM
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67. Me, too
I can't even imagine having to sit next to him for a couple of hours.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:37 PM
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78. she's the buffer -eom
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:30 PM
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61. Oh, now I'm crying.
I've been such a mess since this election....
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:31 PM
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66. So are the angels...
Look at that downpour.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:33 PM
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71. You and me both
It doesn't take much to set me off these days. And I can't stop eating.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:34 PM
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73. I'm misty too, over what Bono said of Clinton & peace in Ireland
The Irish have a way of cutting to the heart of the matter.
I'm 1/2 Irish and my family can really nail a sentiment when it matters.

"One of our Irish Sons...Wm Jefferson Clinton"

Very moving.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:31 PM
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63. Sunday Bloody Sunday.......YES!
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:33 PM by Az_lefty
Maybe this is suppose to give the Dem's hope.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:33 PM
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69. Notice how the Bushes aren't even listening?
foooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:33 PM
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72. Yea, I just noticed that. They probably don't get it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:35 PM
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74. Oh.. "Hands That Build America."
Gorgeous song, and Bono just said "We wrote it for our Irish sons, but it could have been written for William Jefferson Clinton."

Anyone remember at the Oscars, right before the Iraq invasion, when Bono changed the words?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:38 PM
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79. I'm listening now
An amazing performance. For some reason I actually felt hope listening to the song...

Oh the song is over. Hillary's talking.

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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:35 PM
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76. now "America"...excellent choice.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:42 PM
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80. Big Dog looks good!
Saying nice things about Shrub..... I suppose one has to.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:43 PM
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81. I suppose...
...he could hardly say "Well, George, you stole another one!"
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:44 PM
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83. LOL
That would be priceless. :evilgrin:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:46 PM
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85. Ok, that got a chuckle here. :)
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:43 PM
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82. Yep
It's probably mandatory.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:44 PM
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84. Wow, mention of Kerry got a BIG cheer!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:48 PM
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86. Ha, Clinton releases his records EARLY
and Poppy still hasn't released his. Snork.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:54 PM
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89. Good stuff.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:56 PM by crispini
Interesting philosophy: Conservatism draws lines that should not be crossed
progressives break down barriers that were unneeded
At the time Clinton was pres, both needed to happen. (New Democrat: 3rd way).
Putting people first -- keep score by a simple measure. Were ordinary people better off when I stopped than when I started. Politics about giving people better stories. Politics about individual people.


Damn, he's getting WET.

Calling for Shrub to bring peace to the middle east. :eyes:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:59 PM
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92. More.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:59 PM by crispini
"And while we have to fight our enemies we can't possibly occupy all of them." THANK YOU, ARE YOU LISTENING SHRUB?

"Am I the only person who likes both of ?" YES (edit: that's me, not Clinton)

What are our shared values?
- everybody counts
- everybody deserves a chance
- our differences do matter but our common humanity matters more.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:54 PM
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88. Air America cut away
but I was enjoying listening to Bill recap his accomplishments....made Dubya look small by comparisom....wish I was near a tv....it would be fun to watch dubya squirm......
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:56 PM
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91. He wouldn't squirm
He actually thinks he's done good things in the last four years.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:00 PM
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93. "...building bridges to..." WAR CRIMINALS, TORTURERS. fuck Clinton too.
This embrace of injustice and murder shows the scam:

Dems and Repubs are a Good Cop/Bad Cop fascist cabal.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:45 PM
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98. ok. The line about Repubs=too many barriers, Dems=breaking 'em down
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 03:05 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
was a good line. Yes, he can speak well.

But sunny speeches are the anaesthetic against the pain of outrage THAT ACTUALLY BRINGS ACTION FOR JUSTICE.

That's how the American public has been controlled. Not at the point of gun, but by keeping awareness below the THRESHOLD OF CHANGE.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:00 PM
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94. What was Hillary laughing so much about?
Right after Chelsea gave the keys to some guy.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:02 PM
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95. Those were the keys to the library
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 02:04 PM by lancdem
She was officially handing them over to the federal government.

I don't know why Hillary was laughing. Maybe Chimpy farted. :evilgrin:
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RuleofLaw Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:09 PM
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96. WOW
The last speaker is slamming Bush.

Let us be a nation of peace makers and not of warriors (or something like that)
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:19 PM
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97. jeez Bill looks good
miss the Clintons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

too bad about the rain, that was our weather yesterday
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