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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:45 PM
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Would everyone snap out of it. Ahnold will never be president.
The constitution states that the president must be a native born citizen.

To amend the constitution, two thirds of the house and two thirds of the senate must approve the amendment. If this happens, two thirds of the states have to approve it within a seven year period.

Weighing the (rightfully)difficult task of getting an amendment passed, Jesus would have trouble becoming president.

Thousands of constitutional amendments have been proposed, yet only 27 of them have made it.

Ahnold will never be president, unfortunately, the constitution doesn't rule out Tom DeLay.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:47 PM
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1. I certainly hope you are right.
pretty sure felons can't be president. Hopefully that will soon preclude DeLay.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:48 PM
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2. just another diversion
do you think Ahnold knows?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:50 PM
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3. I think it's even harder, like 3/4 of the states have to ratify. n/t
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:51 PM
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4. Neither will Giuliani (warning: graphic )
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:53 PM
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5. I agree
And even if by some miracle the constitution was amended, Arnold would not win. He is pretty much viewed as a joke by everyone outside of CA, and even here in CA in the same polls that show 65 percent of Californians approve of him, by clear majorities they also say they would not support him for president. Arnold would never win over the south because of his "liberal" stands on issues like abortion and the fact that he's a groper, and the rest of the country just doesn't take him seriously. Sorry Arnold, you're going to have to stick to fucking up just my state instead of the rest of the country.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:53 PM
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6. WRONG on the states
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 02:55 PM by Walt Starr
The amendmnet process requires approval by 3/4 of the state legislatures. The time period is written into the amendment, thus we have the XXVII amendment which was initally proposed under the Madison administration and was finally ratified under the Bush I administration.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:59 PM
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8. Okay, I stand corrected.
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Reality Not Tin Foil Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:53 PM
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7. No kidding!!
Read my name and SHUT UP!!!
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:10 PM
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9. Then why on earth did he run for Governor?
To be governor? That just makes so little sense considering his psychological profile. It seems much more likely that someone high-up in the Republican power structure assured him that they would find a way for him to be President.

I mean Frist is about to change the rules on senate cloture- how do we know that four years from now they won't have changed all kinds of things? It's not as if these people actually have any respect for our system of Democracy.

And as for his left-leaning policies, don't believe it. He's spent a lot more time around liberals than most high-powered Repubs, so he knows what they like. He'll do enough good in CA to keep a large number of Democrats happy, but he'd jettison every ideal he ever faked when he ran for Prez, and add a few new "values" just for the south.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:11 PM
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10. Just because a thing can be expressed as a statistic
(27 out of 1000s) doesn't mean that the success or failure of any particular one is a matter of those same odds.

Lots of people think allowing a foreign-born citizen to run is a perfectly fine idea. I'm guessing most of the opposition comes from more conservative people and if Repubs are doing the promoting, they may have a way of keeping their own in check.

I wouldn't put it at 50/50, but I'd say the amendment has a reasonable chance of making it through.
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eataTREE Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:15 PM
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11. Listen up: Pray that this amendment passes and they run Ah-nold.
You know why? 'Cos he'd LOSE.

The Governator is a Hollywood actor. Not only that, he's pro-choice and tolerant of gays. And he's a 'furriner'. Not the sort of guy the good Christian soldiers of the red-state Jesus brigade are going to get behind.

In fact, with a conspicuous symbol of Hollywood immorality at the top of the Republican ticket, I believe we would see a third-party run by someone like Alabama ex-Judge Roy Moore, running on the familiar themes of God, Gays, Guns, and Abortion. Wingnut Repubs vote Moore (or stay home), moderate repubs vote Beefy, Democrats vote for our nominee, and we win.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:47 PM
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12. Okay, let me make this more explicit.
Given the difficulty of passing a constitutional amendment, and then getting Ahnold nominated, even though he's pro-choice, I hereby swear that I will eat pig dung in Macy's window at Christmas time if he's ever elected president of the U.S.

For those of you who caught it, the key word in the above paragraph is "elected."
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:52 PM
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13. I'm having an acid flashback....
here in CA we said the same thing about Arnie being gov...and look where we are today. :(

Never say never....
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