Bush's Core Agenda is Christian - His Piety is NOT just an electoral ploy

[NAO]

For quite awhile I thought that Bush just pretended to be religious to gather electoral support from the Christian right so he could be elected and advance his "real" agenda, which I believed was Corporatist.

Now, after much research, I believe the opposite is true. I think Bush's heart is really in the Christian Re-constructionist/Dominionist agenda. I came to this conclusion because of the tremendous amount of energy and attention to detail in the Bush Administrations policies and the way they are helping to entrench the Christian right.

From things like making sure a book on creationism is at the bookstore at the Grand Canyon (against the objections of the geologists in the Park Service) to targeting and defunding scientific research at NIH that has to do with AIDS that is not anti-gay abstinence oriented to aggressive audits of organizations that have agendas opposing the Christian agenda, all this evidence of massive activity seems like too much to attribute to mere "electoral base building".

I am convinced that Bush really does want to institute a Christian Theocracy. The version of Christianity endorsed by this movement, called Dominionism or Christian Reconstructionism, includes the belief that wealth is a sign of God's blessing and that poverty is a punishment for an immoral undisciplined lifestyle. It includes a moral justification for unrestrained capitalism, destruction of the social safety net, and military aggression.

Until this agenda and the social movement behind it is acknowledged and understood, I don't think progressives stand a chance of any future success, either electoral or on issue based reforms.


With God on Their Side: How Christian Fundamentalists Trampled Science, Policy, and Democracy in George W. Bush's White House
by Esther Kaplan
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565849205/ref=pd_pym_ka/102-0990485-5823341

Articles on the Web on the Dominionist Movement

The Despoiling of America
How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State By Katherine Yurica
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Conquering by Stealth and Deception
How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power By Katherine Yurica
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

Links to More Articles Revealing the Rise of Dominionism in America
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html

[mark414]

1. a great quote by one of Bush's cousins

on the bush relatives for kerry site:

"critics will accuse my cousin of pandering to the religious right...he's not pandering, he IS the religious right."

[Warren DeMontague]

3. There's nothing worse than a preachy ex-cokehead.

Shit, just look at Gary Busey.

[janx]

11. What site is this?

Please. It's very important. Where is it? What is the URL?

[mark414]

16. here it is

http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com

because blood is thinner than oil!

[janx]

17. Thank you!

There is no way to get in touch with these people though, is there? I looked for a contact link and could find none.

I would like to contact them.

[atreides1]

2. If This Is Their Wish

Then it's up to true, patriotic Americans to make sure that it doesn't happen, and since we can't prevent by using the power of the voting booth, then that only leaves one alternative.

These people are traitors, and should be dealt with as traitors, and the only way to do that is to stop them.

Cut off the head and the body dies.

[NAO]

5. The problem is they are gaining control of courts that define "traitor"

The most dangerous aspect of their coup is the bid for control of the courts...not just the supreme court but courts at all levels.

This came out of their experience of achieving success with passing Christian Theocratic legislation, only to have it struck down as "unconstitutional". They then realized that the only way to implement their agenda was to gain control of the judicial.

Once they do that, we will have no recourse.

[Maat]

4. I think that you are correct.

Reportedly, there are daily prayer groups all over the inner Whitehouse, and Bush participats in the most important one, of course. They all reportedly wear Christian symbols underneath their lapel pins, per the Voice in the Whitehouse on TBRNews.com.

[TwentyFive]

6. I've thought the same thing for a while.

I'm glad somebody is bringing it up. Most people think the Religious Right and Wall Street are mutually exclusive voting blocks. Not so...this movement invokes the worst elements of both! And worst for us, it is so unbelievable that people cannot accept that it is really happening right now...and the noose is tightening everyday, little by little.

[Warpy]

7. Since their agenda is based on deception

and justifying their ends by criminal means, I don't think we can call them Christian in the least. They just stole the name and are abusing it every chance they get.

Don't make the mistake of assuming the Antichrist is a single person. The Antichrist is any person or group of people whose actions run completely counter to the teachings of Christ. They are always with us; that they have managed to seize power is horrible, but they've done so before.

The consequences are always tragic when they do, as we are undoubtedly about to find out.

[jobycom]

8. Nah, Bush's only belief is in beer and money

He's a fraud, he's just trying to make the core of his voting block happy, and he knows the media is too corrupt to call him on it.

The extent of Bush's religious belief is that God created him and his buddies as the elite, and the rest of the world-- including that 51% who allegedly voted for him-- to serve him. His beliefs go no deeper than that.

Not that it matters. He's a filthy, murdering dog, either way, and the results are the same. I think there are still Democrats who still try to figure out what Bush believes, what he's up to. Not even Democrats can accept that he is just a vacuous, evil man, whose only goals on life are whatever he feels like doing at that moment. There's no ideology one way or the other.

[NAO]

10. How Do You Account for the Extent of Theocratic Activity

and the rigorous attention to minor details, which go mostly unmentioned in the press?

He has radically transformed medical research at NIH and also the activity and information of CDC. Both organizations have been strongly steered away from research on AIDS or condoms in favor of touting abstinence based programs.

He has undercut secular organizations with ruthless audits and draconian regulatory requirements.

There is far too much activity, too intense and too coordinated, to assume he is just "using" Christianity to advance his political and economic agendas. Rather, he is using his political position to advance his Theocratic agenda. His brand of Christianity is not "true" Christianity in the sense of following the teachings of Jesus, but it does have a basis in the Evangelical Christian movement.

[evilqueen]

13. suggest you google "Leo Strauss"

He was a professor and taught many of the neocons who are currently in power. His is a version of Dominionism that *uses* religion as a tool.

[jobycom]

19. He writes blank checks to the Christians

They tell him what they want, he doesn't care one way or the other, so he gives them what they want.

[leesa]

9. His piety AND his "christianity" are a ploy

He is very aware of dominionism but is using it for his own greedy, narcissistic reasons. He trained long and hard to appear to be a televangelist. It's all a sham.

[Nostradammit]

12. I disagree -

I think he's smirking his way through the whole charade. A thirty minute conversation with Billy Graham never cured his jones and he's riding the religious right for the full 8 seconds.

That's just my gut feeling. I've known plenty of "born again" fanatics and he has never struck me as one of them.

On Edit:

Plus, he was assigned the job of rounding up the jesus freaks for his father's campaign. That's where he got so good at it.

[Julien Sorel]

14. If he were really a christian he wouldn't focus

so much energy on walking a tightrope on issues like abortion -- he'd just come out and say where he stands like the rest of them do.

[Malva Zebrina]

15. Using it and it is a handy con game

and a ploy. If there was another religion that was as massive as the born again religious right, he would have used that one.

The guy is a con man.


Why has separation of the church and state crumbled?

Because the people who do believe that, including some, but not all denominations of Christians, would not be as easily conned.

I believe the reason they are so easily conned is because they want the faith based money, and the power that they think is achieved with connections to a powerful government under Bush.

It may hide itself under the guise of agendas such as the gay marriage debacle, or under the abortion issue and pro-life, whatever that means, for it certainly does not apply to Iraq and the slaughter going on there, but I suspect it has all to do with money and the dolling out of tax payer money to those churches that support the fascist agenda.

It happened under Hitler also. And also under the fascist regime of Franco.

[janx]

18. Perhaps the largest bit of hypocrisy involved with "Dubya's"

background is the fact that he is a Mayflower descendent. There are many, many Mayflower descendents in our country today (reproduction over 400+ years), but the separation of church and state is, or should be, paramount to anyone who knows American history and especially to those who are descended from the people who were on the Mayflower.

The merging of religion and government is bad for government; it's true!, but the merging of government and religion is much worse for religion in the long run.

The Mayflower travelers were Congregationalists--a protestant religion considered "liberal" in our religious right culture of today (as are Presbyterians). The Congregationalist pilgrims were NOT Puritans; they were Separatists.

That's why you will find the head of Americans for the Separation of Church and State as a minister for the United Church of Christ. The Congregational Church was a huge part of the merger which led to the UCC. He is probably a Congregational minister. If he isn't, then he definitely knows a lot about American history.

Edit: Relax and enjoy a real Thanksgiving, friends. The passengers on the Mayflower are perhaps not quite as evil as they have sometimes been portrayed.

[shuffnew]

21. Separation of Church & State should be paramount...

yes, it should, but please understand that the Dubya's foreground is an implanted Texas GOP Republican of the extreme far right who are out to distroy "Separation of Church & State" and all of our founding documents... replacing it with the Falwell, Roberson, et al agenda.

Falwell announced to Lou Dobbs tonight that he has started a big campaign to get more GOP soldiers into his court. Why? They are his puppets? Said he's announced his coalition campaign launch on his website: http://www.faithandvalues.us

We cannot pretend this is not real and not a possibility. The facts are shocking and appalling!

If you read the references in this thread - it shows what the GOP plan really is and it is anything BUT supporting a "Mayflower based heritage" (rather distroying it piece by piece).

[shuffnew]

20. GOP Platform = Dominion Theology (not just BUSH folks - it's GOP !)

GREAT POST!

It's not just Bush either! This is serious and true! If you also read the below (the last reference is lengthy, but details how Republicans are unknowingly (in addition to those "knowing" leaders) allowing themselves to be brainwashed - this describes in detail HOW they fluff the innocent into thinking the GOP is righteous while actually brainwashing people into this GOP cult which is anything BUT religious and righteous!).

Texas GOP Platform
http://www.4religious-right.info/texas_gop.htm

"The Texas Republican Party Platform http://www.texasgop.org/library/RPTPlatform2004.pdf can be read as a blueprint for Bush administration policies, and reflects the values of Dominion Theology." ( http://www.4religious-right.info/relig_inst.htm )

A lengthy "hair raising" article on the GOP Republican's Dominion Theology as it relates to Bush and other Republican leaders (references Pat Roberson, et al -- lengthy, but a MUST to read):
http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=43&num=5160

WAKE UP CALL FOR DEMS and REPUGS alike! This is what is happening in our country - GOP mission to destroy our country! Our real leaders will be Falwell, Roberson if REPUGS & DEMS that do not support this direction don't wake up and take quick actions.

After reading your links and the above additional links in my post...
you will see why I (being a Texan) WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN IN MY LIFE TIME - I am appalled that Republicans (Texans and otherwise) can be this weak, allowing themselves to be overtaken by the sick brainwashing of the Roberson & Falwall cult - using the GOP party for their delivery and implementation! You'll know why Falwell is pressing hard for more GOP leaders that are their servants/puppets!

Shuffnew - "Proud to be a DEMOCRAT from Texas"

[Be Brave]

22. Gee, could've fooled me!

In that case, he and his minions are the worst Christians I've come across in my life! Hypocrites!

[m berst]

23. why doesn't he attend church?

I, too, thought that there was a good chance that Bush was a sincere Christian, until I found out that he hasn't bothered to become a member of a congregation and doesn't attend church.

That is a stunner for me and for every other Christian to whom I mention it. I believe that he intends to install a theocracy, but not because he is a man of faith.

Something is way, way off there. When I learned of this, the hair on the back of my neck stood up.

An off-the-deep-end religious zealot is one thing. A man faking being an off-the-deep-end religious zealot is something else again. I don't know what.

[Dr Fate]

24. Prolly more ta do with Rove...

...but I could be wrong...I'll read your links....