Kerry should make a statement about the voting "irregularities"

[Nancy Waterman]

He should point up some of the details in the studies that have been done, quoting sources, and say that we must have either a clear paper trail and uniform voting equipment nationally, or go back to 100% paper ballots for all elections. (I am leaning more and more toward the latter.) But he is in the position to make a one time statement, that would be televised and talked about, and to point out that the system we have is not good enough. He needs to give the numbers in the Berkely study, the statements about the efficacy of exit polls from some of the experts, the fact that it is the divergence of those exit polls from the voting results that should always cause a recount. He has a terrific opportunity on this but the window will soon be closing.

[John Q. Citizen]

1. Yes, and he should speak out against the 9 hour poll tax on the poor,

students and people of color.

[Dez]

2. He ought to be

saying SOMETHING. ALl this silence, I feel like he's abaondned us.

[wurzel]

3. Kerry already has. He conceded.

[skooooo]

4. Kerry isn't going to do shit..

...and you can count on that.

[Mr. Mousie]

6. damn right...

You can take that to the bank. I've never seen two candidates whose agendas were more identical. Kerry has NO PROBLEM with Bush and his fascist gang being the ones who run the country.

[merh]

8. Please watch his interview - Link at post 7 below. n/t

[merh]

5. Did you see the video of his interview?

He has made a statement about it not being over and the votes are still being counted.

[merh]

7. Here is a link to his interview of Nov 16!

Link: http://www.boston.com/news/necn/
Scroll to bottom of page to:
MORE NECN VIDEO STORIES
NECN: John Kerry Speaks Out

Transcript here:
http://www.trenzhost.com/files/sydney/John%20Kerry%20Speaks%20Out3.htm

[robbedvoter]

9. Could you sum it up for me? Can't stand to look at him!

Was it anything like this?


http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/frontpage8.asp
Mr. Kerry, for instance—if he were smart, if he were truly forward-thinking and unselfish—could have changed what is now becoming the Master Narrative of the Election (a "mandate" based on "values" means: get pious or else). If he had made the speech I suggest (or some version of it), he could have changed the focus from Mr. Bush’s popular-vote win (only 51 percent anyway) to a narrative about the unresolved closeness of the margin. About how the country remains divided—at least electorally—rather than the false (based on misread, inaccurate exit polls) triumph of righteousness (and self-righteousness).

[sangh0]

11. Are you kidding?

1) The NY Observer is a VERY conservative rag. They started in NYC because they felt that NYC, with Murdoch's NY POST, did not have any conservative newspapers.

2) Why believe a right-wing paper's opinion of what Kerry said while ignoring the source when it's right in front of you? Do you really believe that this right-wing rag WANTS the fraud revealed and Kerry in the White House?

[merh]

13. sangh0, don't you know

when looking to find the worst about people to back up their contempt, folks will believe and quote anything!

[sangh0]

14. But did you see that?

He CAN'T STAND to look at Kerry, but some right-wing rag he looks at AND BELIEVES

I think we found the real reason why Kerry lost.

[merh]

18. I believe you are correct!

Talk about loyalty to a cause. :shrug: Just like another poster on this thread. :argh:

[NYCGirl]

20. That's incorrect. The New York Observer is liberal — Joe Conason is their

main political writer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Observer

"The New York Observer is a weekly newspaper first published in New York City on September 22, 1987 by Arthur L. Carter, a very successful former investment banker with publishing interests. The Observer focuses on the city's culture, real estate, the media, politics and the entertainment and publishing industries. It covers the rich and powerful of New York with an unusual depth of coverage although has been criticized for its narrow focus on the upper east side of Manhattan and its liberal political perspective."

You must be thinking of the New York Sun, which is right-wing.

[unfrigginreal]

21. Oops...looks like a couple of know-it-alls don't know jack-shit

[sangh0]

23. I'll say

It looks like you're not very familiar with the Observer either. Check out this article reviewing some books about the Iraq invasion:

http://www.observer.com/pages/book1.asp

Check out the reviewer's affiliations

[sangh0]

22. One liberal does not a liberal rag make

I invite people to peruse the paper and decide for themselves.

Check this out:

http://www.observer.com/pages/book1.asp

[merh]

15. Rather lazy of you since I provided you the link to a transcript too

King: Senator Kerry, congratulations on a well fought campaign. Polls showed you were tied in the final weeks - showed that you won 2 if not 3 of the debates…all three…plenty of money to fight the republicans. Why did you lose?

Kerry: Well that’s for punditry and others to decide, obviously I didn’t get enough votes in the end. We were 50,000 votes, approximately, moving the other way, short, in one state. That’s a very close race. No one’s ever beaten an incumbent president in a time of war. And ‘terror terror terror’ was being thrown at people in a huge, in a huge, negative campaign. I’m very proud of what we did. I don’t look backwards and say well, we did a lot of things that were rather remarkable. Brought out more people at any time in history, I won 57 million votes, plus, still counting – more than any person who’s ever run for president and lost in history. We turned out more people, more states than any time. If you look at the battleground states we actually had a more cumulative vote than George Bush did. We just didn’t get it all in the right state. And so, I’m not gonna worry about that. What I’m concerned about now is continuing the battle for the things I fought for in the campaign. Healthcare for Americans that’s affordable, jobs that pay more than the jobs going overseas, fiscal responsibility, energy policy that makes us independent and safer, and restoring America’s strength and reputation in the world. That’s why I’m here, and I’m very grateful to the people of Massachusetts for the privilege of being here and for the support that they gave me through this race.

King: Are you the last Democrat from Massachusetts, the last ‘liberal’ from the Northeast who will ever be able to run for president in our lifetime?

Kerry: Absolutely not. Why? I became within 50,000 votes of winning, against a president in a time of war, no one’s ever beaten a president in a time of war. Massachusetts was not an issue in this campaign. People need to dispel themselves of that immediately. What was difficult in this campaign was breaking through in terms of the negative, unbelievable onslaught and distortions and smears and other things. And we tried to run a very positive campaign about America’s future. I’m very proud of it.

King: And for a crucial sector of people, the election came down not to the war, not to the economy but to moral values. How surprised were you by that – and do the Democrats need to find a new strategy to better deal with, work with the Christian right – to better deal with issues like abortion and gay marriage?

Kerry: I have the same position as George Bush on gay marriage. Same position. What they did was exploit it in ways that we didn’t or don’t do. Now, do we need to do a better job of communicating what our position may or not be, well then the answer is yes, probably. But I refuse to believe - you know that’s not what this race was decided on. And I beg to differ with those people.

King: You don’t buy into the idea that moral values….

Kerry: Oh it was part of some people’s votes, but the predominant issue was the war and terror. That was the predominant one. And if you look at the impact of the Osama bin Laden tape in the last days – and you look at the impact of the Chechnyan rebels in the school in Russia – you’ll find a very real impact on people in the war on terror. And this will come out as the days go on. That’s not what this race is about, I mean that’s not what is important right now. What’s important right now is we got some real fights here in Washington that make a difference to the lives of the people in Massachusetts and the country. And the question is, what direction is George Bush gonna go in? I want healthcare that’s affordable for all Americans and I want children to be covered by healthcare. If George Bush wants to work at that we can find some common ground and make progress. But if they’re unwilling to do that, we’re gonna you know, have some fights.

King: Your brother says it’s conceivable that you would run for president in 4 years. Have you ruled that out?

Kerry: I haven’t ruled anything out, I haven’t ruled anything in. Look, they haven’t finished counting the votes yet – we’d be talking about the race 4 years from now and it’s WAY to premature. But I’m not gonna rule anything out cuz I’ve said previously. What I’m here to do is fight for the things that I fought for in the course of this campaign. And the people of Massachusetts have been just wonderful. And the support they’ve given me, the privilege they’ve given me of running for president, being in the senate….and I intend to live up to the high standards of our state. And no on in our state should think that the state or what we stand for had anything to do with the outcome of this race.

Transcribed by: Faye Weber

http://www.trenzhost.com/files/sydney/John%20Kerry%20Speaks%20Out3.htm

[sangh0]

10. Why?

You say that there's an opportunity, but an opportunity for what?

Unless he has proof, it seems like an opportunity for Kerry to embarrass himself

[zulchzulu]

12. OK...Here would be the script

John Kerry:

"I conceded the election to George Bush because there is a 3 million vote gap in the popular vote and there is no real way to count untraceable votes done by Diebold machines across the nation.

Therefore, I am saying that there are irregularities in the votes and want to make that a point. Ask me why I say that and I guess it's because I'm pissed that I can't count the votes. Usually, I would use my skills as a former prosecutor and go under the radar and investigate the matter and then come up with the problem and offer a solution.

But since I have all these Monday Morning Quarterbacks who keep saying all kinds of "shoulda, coulda, woulda" explanations, I am basically making this statement that there are voting problems.

I hope I made all the people who wanted me to make an ass out of myself on TV for their tinfoil hat theories happy.

Good night. Oh wait....(clears throat) (DEAN SCREAM!!!!)"

[sangh0]

16. Wow!

That's almost EXACTLY how I pictured it!!

[merh]

17. Oh, give me a break - some folks voted twice, didn't they!

:hi:

[Doctor_J]

19. Yeah, like

"It looks like Mr. Bush may have stolen another election. Well, we're onto you, sir. You caught us off guard in 2000, and stole this one with vote fraud. The jig is up, and we will be ready in 2006".