Why do people say the GOP has been hijacked by nuts? It's COMPOSED of them

[fujiyama]

Enough of this "hijacking" nonsense. The party has completely gone over to the dark side. It is the party of the corporate elite and the religious right. It was anything but hijacked. It was willingly taken over.

The '00 primary election was CLEAR confirmation of this. McCain, before he completely sold out himself, asked whether the party was that of Robertson and Falwell or of Teddy Roosevelt.

They chose Falwell and Robertson. McCain was rejected overwhelmingly.

The new republican party is a near fascist party. I am reminded of what Inhofe of Oklahoma said right when Abu Grhaib broke out....where he was more outraged by talking about the scandal, than he was by the scandal itself.

While saying this outloud by a politician may or may not be very politically feasable, it's the truth. And most of us here should be able to say so.

Oh and BTW any "Democrat" that votes for republicans on the federal level (even a so called moderate like Spector) isn't a Democrat. You don't vote for republicans on the federal level and call yourself a Democrat. Maybe those people don't know that Spector has an overall shitty record...and the same goes with other republican "moderates".

[JI7]

1. just look at the Senators who were elected

people want to focus on Kerry not doing well in the South.

but look at the Senate races in the south. those democratic candidates were not like kerry in that they were outsiders and new england liberals. these democratic senate candidates were from the areas and understood the culture and people. their politics was more closer to them also. yet they lost.

bunning who accused his opponent of "looking like saddam's son" , cheated in the debates, and started claiming his opponent was gay was re-elected.

coburn of oklahoma who wants doctors who perform abortions to be put to death was elected.(coburn himself has performed abortions before)

DeMint of South Carolina who said gays and single mothers should not be able to teach in schools.

Vitter of Louisiana who was supported by David Duke.

John Thune of South Dakota who is bigoted toward Native Americans.

[fujiyama]

2. Some people here are delusional

The republican party is way past gone. Many seem to believe that there are moderates left in it and a few fanatics have taken over. It's MUCH deeper than that.

I'm losing hope in this country. I'm close to leaving. The senate races are one of the things that did it for me. DeMint, Coburn, Vitter, Bunning, Thune - this IS the republican party.

[JI7]

5. yeah, i said before

that i can even understand people like Lindsey Graham, Lamar Alexander,and Bill Frist getting elected even though i disagree with them on the issues.

but this new set of senators just elected are not just conservative but they are openly bigoted with extremist positions. i could never compromise to accept those views in any way.

it's really something when i think of the "good old days" being when the Republicans in the Senate were people like Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and Phil Gramm.

[Brundle_Fly]

6. I think that the

repukes will out themselves as crazies.

I think that there must be some common sense left in the country.









*crawls back into fetal position*

[PurityOfEssence]

11. Most people everywhere are in denial

They don't want to accept what greedy, insane primitives hold sway over much of the world and certainly over our national politics. The need to feel safe seemingly outweighs any rational desire to assess what we're up against.

It's not too surprising, really; people don't want to admit that theocratic madmen (and women) are going hog-wild trying to set up some delusional utopia based on xenophobic monoculturalism. People don't want to admit the lunatic tyranny that looms over the horizon, and they'll whistle a merry tune and play down the warning signs.

No real questioning is being made of electronic vote thievery, so the right will move to lock up every region they can; then they can vote in all sorts of quaint policies.

This is MY country too, so I'll stay; they're the ones who hate America.

[cali]

3. You're right.

People are reluctant to deal with the reality that the republican party is a radical far right nationalist party. The few moderates left in the party, are traitors if they continue to vote with the republicans. I never say things like that, but any cooperation with these rightwing thugs is clearly cooperation with enemies of the constitution.

[lawladyprof]

9. We need to label them as what they are--reactionary Republicans

It is a more acceptable label than rightwing thugs, but it has an unpleasant, negative connotation.

[MSgt213]

4. I think this has a good chance of backfiring on the GOP

I know they claimed to have won the election fair and square and we are saying they cheated. The way they won with the reglious right though stands in my opinion to backfired. For years now the GOP has been able to control the reglious right and kinda of support and at the same time distance themselves a little from the reglious right's message.

This has allowed the GOP to kinda have it both ways, but more importantly they have had that support in their hip pocket while at the same time being able to focus their efforts on single messages or should I say attacks. If you have been tuning into any of the talk shows and news stories in the last 10 to 20 years you will have noticed that the GOP always seems to all be talking about the same things at the same time using the excat same language. Attacking this issue or that democrat all at the same time as if there were a weekly calendar that they all get with faxed talking points received each day.

With the reglious right excerting more and more control they are now getting on the talk shows and the messages are going to start to be jumbled because they have a different agenda altogether. What a lot of people caught in this moral issue may finally come to understand is that the reglious right is more about control then morals and I think a lot will start to resist having god mention in every single thing they do.

I think this country is still more middle of the road then right or left. One of the democrats main problems over these same years has been the extreme environmentalists and how they have dealt with them as someone supporters of the demos over the repubs.

I know this is all very simplistic, but its my 2 cents.

[jackster]

7. I agree MSgt...

we've all seen the religious right crawling out from under the rocks now that they think they alone elected George Bush.

The neocons have been using them for years. The relgious nuts are unable to determine this on their own because reasoning is dangerous and therefore something they aren't familiar with.

however, now that they are out struttin' their stuff and demanding their payback, the neocons are going to have to rein them in further.

maybe we should just sit back and enjoy the fireworks!

[cali]

10. Not simplistic at all.

I completely agree. It will backfire. I just hope it's sooner then later. Rethugs have to put up or ..... well, they're screwed either way. Don't give the religious whacks what they want, and they'll stop voting rethug. Endless threads in freeperville demonstrate this. Give them what they want, and tons of people desert the party over abortion. Make no mistake, the majority of Americans support a woman's right to choose.

There was a fascinating thread on kos yesterday, suggesting that someone (hopefully a rethug) should propose a constitutional amendment declaring that life begins at, and is protected from, conception. Can you imagine, how screwed they'd be if they had to vote on such an amendment?

[no_hypocrisy]

8. Not only is the RNC far-right, it's designed to stay that way.

If a candidate wishes to run for any seat in government, s/he had better be far-right as "moderate" won't do it anymore. A moderate republican with hopes of electability will be dismayed to find the RNC producing a competitor in the primaries who is far-right, who will be subsidized by the national office, promoted, and probably elected. Not to mention corporate/special interests that will sponsor a far-right repubican candidate over a moderate. It's that easy: no money, no chance. Even an incumbent will be threatened by the RNC to stay in line, or else when it's time for re-election.

The campaign finance "reform" has become a tiger without teeth. Same old, same old.

[Ducks In A Row]

12. Remember the the religious right made it a point to take over

the posts that made up the control of the party. the ones that vote for the higher levels that vote for the still higher levels that lead to the convention people who vote on the platform stuff.

lots of republicans (not rethugs who are the wackos controlling things now) didn't see it happening.


not that I pity them, they could take it back over if they moved their asses.

but lots of them voted for kerry this time. I'm betting they just didn't believe the election would be stolen AGAIN.

[KnowerOfLogic]

13. Dem primaries should be NATIONWIDE, on SAME DAY.

The present system is a joke.