Lets face it---we are not very good at dirty election tricks

[franmarz]

We must face the facts, we have been screwed over and out manuevered by dirty tricks. The repubs are just able to sink lower than anyone else, and are very open about it.We were certainly caught off guard.

[NVMojo]

1. that I do believe is an issue for Dems, we just don't have a talented,

evil Karl Rove to manipulate the public for us.

[ewagner]

2. True

The only democrats I ever knew who were good at dirty tricks were to old Mayor Richard Daly Machine in Chicago.....they knew what they were doing.

We consider ourselves above "that sort of thing"....or, at least most of us do...

[liberal N proud]

3. Wasn't the Daily machine in Chicago a Democratic ticket

They used to pull some good ones.
It should not be about who can pull the best or dirtiest tricks but it should be about the issues and a clean, fair election.
It is damn sad when the country that claims it wants to foster and spread Democracy across the globe can't even have a fair election of our own.
I just want these people exposed for what they are and pay the price.

[kuozzman]

4. We weren't caught off guard, we watched every step of the way....

and saw how obvious it was that they rigged shit. The only reason it hasn't blown up is because the media won't cover it honestly. I'm sure the White House just told them something like,
"OK, yes there do seem to be a lot of irregularities, but they are just a coincidence and we absolutely didn't tamper with any voting machines. Printing a story like this in a time of war would cause the whole world to question the legitimacy of our strong belief in, living in and spreading democracy. So unless if you have 100% undeniable proof that some sort of fraud took place and your willing to take that to court against our billion dollar lawyers and our judges, then you will just treat it like a "conspiracy theory". Having this in our media will make America a disgrace to the world! You could turn the world against our soldiers at war, you media whores!"

[napi21]

5. I agree..we need a "Rove like" Dem!

Somebody who "will do anything or say anything" to win!

I used to believe that honesty and truth alwayas win out. I don't anymore. It has been proven time and time again that many people believe or at least question the possibility of truth in the insane suggestions that are made in political campaigns. Most seem to think the accusation would never be made if there wasn't at least some truth behind them.

I have to believe there is a sstar like that in the Dem Party. I don't know who it is, but I sure hope he or she comes forward soon. We need to start NOW!