Who said this? Can you guess? It may surprise you!

[Quixote1818]

This came to me as an e-mail. Please send it on as a chain letter.


Read this quote and try to guess who said it. The truth might make you see where this country may be heading:

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."

So, who said it?
Was it George W. Bush?

No.

Was it Ralph Reed, head of the Christian Coalition?

No.

Was it former Attorney General John Ashcroft?

No.


Scroll down for the answer...










It was Adolph Hitler.

This quote may help explain to those who would pervert their religion for power and control and tells us exactly why we need a clear separation of Church and State.
Everyone on this e-mail list is a Christian and practices their faith with love. However, there are forces within the American administration who would use Christianity as a means to control the masses. The simple fact that the quote above could be confused with several quotes from Bush, Reed or Ashcroft should scare any American, once he or she thinks about it.

What Would Jesus Do?
He would exile the money-changers who use his Temple (and his name) for any thing other than worship:
Matthew 21
Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a 'den of robbers."
Jesus also preached the separation between Church and State:
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God those things that are God's.
This is the response of Jesus when his enemies tried to trap him by asking whether it was right for the Jews, whose nation had been taken over by the Roman Empire, to pay tribute to the Roman emperor. He took a Roman coin that would be used to pay the tribute and asked whose picture was on it; his questioners answered, "Caesar's." The reply of Jesus implied that in using Roman coins, the Jews accepted the rule of the Romans, and so the Roman government had the right to tax them, as long as the Jews were not compromising their religious duties. Jesus's more general point was, "Give to worldy authorities the things that belong to them, and to God what belongs to God."
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not about works, good or bad. It is not the work of the Christian or the church to convict the world of sin. That is the work of the Holy Spirit:
"But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned." (John 16:7-11)

Please forward this to all who may be confused about our role as Christians in a secular world or who may be distressed that the country has swung, in their opinion, either too far to the right or too far to the left. Counsel them to understand that our role as Christians is to spread the gospel, but it is the state's role to render taxation, provide national defense and security and to prevent lawlessness and anarchy. And it is God's role to pass the final judgment on our souls, not the government's.

Hopefully, we can learn from the example of Hitler: using religion to gain personal power should never be used against Christians - or any other person of faith - again. It's positively Talibanian.

[DeepGreen]

1. Damn,,,,

I can not put into words my gut feeling. It is worse than outrage,
worse than hatred, a gut wrenching sickening feeling that history is repeating itself. And,,the jerks that voted for Bush don't see it.
We may have no choice but to fight.

:grr:

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

2. Disturbing, isn't it

Hitler sure did use religion to further his agendas and garner support, just like the fundies are doing right now in america. There are many more quotes from Adolf Hitler like the one you posted - words that could just as well come from some american power-hungry fundie today.

[Zynx]

3. Hitler, like Bush, wasn't sincere about Christianity.

Just because somone publicly professes faith means nothing. Hitler didn't personally believe in anything. He just wanted to manipulate the Christian majority, just like Bush.

[lenidog]

4. If he said it

It must have been early in his rise to power because Hitler was very anti-Christianity. Believe it or not in a scary leap of thinking Hitler beleived that Christianity was actually a Jewish plot to weaken the Aryan people. Himmler took this one step further and through the various branches of the SS hoped to replace Christianity with the old German paganism.

[Quixote1818]

5. Hitler anti-Christian? Not really but no one knows for sure.

Your version is just one of many out their and one that the Religious Right has been very successful at putting out their, however to be honest I think in order to have such venom for Jewish people he defiantly had some prejudices left over from his Christian upbringing. I do know that it was through a climate of Anti Semitism that was present in Germany that Hitler was able to gain power and the Holocaust was allowed to happen.

The Straight Dope goes into Hitler's beliefs and gives both sides. They put him somewhere in the middle. Probably a believer in God but his Christian Speeches may or may not have been his true feelings. No one knows for sure. It will probably remain a mystery forever.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhitlerchristian.html

[Zynx]

8. What I hear about Hitler's personal life brings me to believe he was an

atheist or an agnostic with pagan leanings. Best I can tell he probably dropped his Christian beliefs personally shortly after WWI like much of Europe. You must detach his public statements from his private actions.

If he were a Christian, why would he have said some of the things he did like "Nazism and Christianity cannot co-exist" or something of that nature. He also killed priests and burned churches that didn't agree with him. This doesn't seem to indicate the actions of a man that believed in Christian theology. Sure, he made war on atheists too, but the means nothing to a man who had no morals at all. He was completely lacking a moral center or any kind of beliefs. He was willing to embrace Christianity publicly in order to obtain power. He knew that pitching the struggle as one between Christians and godless Bolshevism or against the Jews was a powerful way of manipulating the Christian masses.

[FlaGranny]

9. Very simply,

he would have done it for the very same reasons G.W.Bush* does it. You don't have to be a believer or a born-again. All you need is the right words to make your "subjects" believe you are.

[norml]

6. Here's another quote by Hitler on his feelings as a Christian.

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

[norml]

7. Here are some Nazi propaganda quotes concerning Jesus.

Germans, Buy only from the Jews!
... not lose everything he had in the war and revolution, and where a German who did not grow rich and arrogant? Isn't it true that the German nailed Jesus to the cross and the Jew transformed his teaching of love into reality? Buy only in Jewish department stores. What does the small German merchant matter ...
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/angrif10.htm 06/28/04, 7136 bytes
Trust No Fox...
... our country; He thinks himself the greatest beau And yet is the ugliest you know! The Eternal Jew From the start the Jew has been A murderer, said Jesus Christ. And as Our Lord died on the cross God the Father knew no other race To torment His Son to death, He chose the Jews for this. That is why the ...
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/fuchs.htm 04/26/04, 32555 bytes
Secret Plans against Germany
... . If it is joined with a creative spirit, it may do more than the millions of people whom we have driven apart." (From the 5th Protocol) Jesus Christ was such a spiritual hero. He fought against the Jews for his whole life. He spoke the most damning judgment ever made against this people. He said ...
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ds6.htm 07/06/04, 15048 bytes