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real democrat Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:48 PM
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Republican's World
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 01:50 PM by real democrat
The same poll takers who predicted a Kerry win told us the key issue was "values." They were wrong. If the voters were concerned about values, they would never have embraced today's Republicans Party. Republican values are money and power, but most voters don't know that.

John Kerry was wrong; America is not worth fighting for. Unfortunately, we're all in the same boat, so I'll have to help keep us afloat until the Democrats get their act together and clean up Bush's mess. It's sort of like looking after half-witted brothers and sisters. You can't help loving them in spite of their liminations and the trouble they cause.

Seriously, folks, don't make me fight alone. Democrats must recruit America's best thinkers and prepare a plan for governing and a vision for the 21st century.
America prospered as no other nation under Democratic leadership 50 years ago when it brought us out of another Republican despression into America's Golden Age. I was there and saw it. Today's voters have been so pampered and petted as a result of those Democratic policies they just can't understand the danger we are in.

In today's Republican world, debts never come due. It is moral to kill 50,000 innocent women and children in Irag. The only sin worth noticing is homosexuality and corrupt international corporations are Supermen coming to save us and give us good jobs.

As a former native Missourian, I've noticed when bull-headed Missouri hill-billies start hurting enough they are much easier to reason with. Democrats must be ready when that time comes---if we still care...

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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:11 PM
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1. The problem is that we were more motivated than ever this time, but
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 02:37 PM by Skarbrowe
if the opposition controls the voting apparatus and the counting of the votes, we can band together, work our asses off, canvass every house in the country and their will still be enough repugs to keep the vote close enough, and by close enough, I mean with 5 million or so, for the repugs to steal it again, and again, and again. Now, having said that, I do know that * did get an awful lot of legitimate votes and maybe, just maybe, there is a chance that we can reach some of these people by 2008. Iraq is going to be lost. I can't see how we will ever being to call Iraq a "win" of any type. But, by 2006 and 2008 the repugs will have continued to build their religious base and use the same scare tactics of homophobia, false sense of security issues and racism to keep hold of many of the same votes they have now.

I'm sure in the 2006 elections the repugs will convince or just make a rule that exit polling is useless and somehow damaging to the voting process. So any means that we have used in the past to try and gauge whom and what people have voted for compared to the actual vote counted will no longer exist. If we can't get a uniform, verifiable voting system put in place by 2006, we will lose more Democratic Senate and House seats and at least for the next two years, we will have a dictatorship/one party government.

I don't see how any Democrat can win anything until our voting system is completely overhauled. I hate sounding like such a bummer, pessimistic, the sky-is-falling maniac, but this is how I truly see the situation to be at this time.

We should have won this election. The pictures of the crowds for Kerry/Edwards, the general mood of the country that was reflected in most polls, the fact that the exit polls DID show Kerry ahead right up until the afternoon of the election. Damn. You can't get much more "together" and "motivated" than the Democrats were in 2004.

Not saying give up by any means. I'm only facing what we are up against and it has to change. I agree we should not give up. Our first line of attack has to be on HOW we vote and HOW those votes get counted. Then, all our hard work in fighting the good fight might stand a chance of saving this country from the destructive path it is being taken down by the present most cheating, lying and stealing administration we have ever had to endure.

edited to correct 2004 to 2008

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