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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:52 PM
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Wesley Clark Issue Positions
Know 'em?
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blackangrydem Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:55 PM
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1. Pro-Choice
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:56 PM
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2. Supports gun rights, but says
you should join the Army if you want to use assault weapons.

Believes in Fair Trade, not Free Trade.
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ken-in-seattle Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:35 PM
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8. also note:
He owns 20 or more guns and does not look like a dufus in hunting camo. :)
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 08:57 PM
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3. His site's still up
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:28 PM
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6. Sure do, but there are so many
Which one do you want to know?

He was against the war in Iraq because Saddam was contained and he thought we should be concentrating on bin Laden and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Once the troops were deployed, he gave information on strategy and planning (which may have made it sound like he supported the war, but he didn't. He was protecting our troops with his assessments - if only BushCo. had listened).

He is pro-choice.

He believes in the separation of Church and State.

He is for Civil Unions, but believes gay marriage should be an issue best tended to by the states and churches.

He supports gun rights within reason (don't need certain high-tech fire power to protect your home and to hunt).

He wanted to return the tax to the top 1 percent and put the revenue to work by hiring more emergency service personnel for Homeland Security, give parents a tax cut for health insurance (while working on reducing health care costs by A.) pooling more people; B.) Moderizing the health care industry with technology and C.) Allowing prescription drugs from Canada), and giving tax breaks to small businesses who created jobs for Americans in America.

There's tons more...
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ken-in-seattle Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:19 PM
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4. Wes Clark’s 10 Pledges
This is probably on the site but I got it from a pdf I archived long ago. (created 12-4-2003 the pfd info says)

Note the line mentioning "secure ammunition" :)


Wes Clark’s 10 Pledges
1. I pledge to all Americans that I will bring our soldiers home, with success in Iraq assured and America standing strong.
My strategy in Iraq will be guided by the following principles:
End the American monopoly. From the beginning, the Bush Administration has insisted on exclusive control of the Iraqi reconstruction and occupation. This has cost us the financial and military support of other nations and made America a bigger target for terrorists. Ending the American monopoly will
change the way this enterprise is viewed -- in Iraq and throughout the world. Change the force mix. The Bush Administration has failed to formulate an effective tactical plan. No such plan will be viable without substantial contributions from military leaders on the ground. Still, I would approach the problem as follows: consider adding troops; adapt to guerrilla war; better use intelligence resources, train Iraqi security forces, free up U.S. troops; engage neighbours for better border security; and secure ammunition.
Give the Iraqis a rising stake in our success. Iraqis will be more likely to meet the security challenge if we give them a greater stake in our success. That means establishing a sovereign government in Iraq right away. Because Americans chose the current governing council, many Iraqis see it as illegitimate. I believe we cannot transfer full authority to Iraqis before they have the capacity to succeed, but we should help the Iraqis quickly establish their own government to replace the existing council.

2. I will never ask our troops to risk the ultimate sacrifice or ask their families to pay the
ultimate price of patriotism except as an absolute last resort.
As President, I will rebuild our relationships abroad and the alliances which maintain them. And I will strengthen them, so that we can solve problems together, so that the use of military force is our last resort not our first, and if America must act with force we can call on the military, financial, and moral Restoring our alliance with Europe is the first essential part of my broader strategy for American national security. President Bush has created a go-it-alone approach and declared the use of preemptive military force as the defining characteristic of his national security strategy. A Clark Administration would place our work with Europe and a reinvigorated NATO as a centerpiece of U.S. policy -- and
then seek not to rely on preemptive force, but instead to use diplomatic, political, economic power and international law in support of preventive engagement. We would reserve the use of force for an absolutely last resort and then act together if possible and alone only if we must.

3. I will never send American soldiers into combat without a realistic plan to win and the forces necessary for victory.
The Administration failed to plan realistically for post-war Iraq. Instead of listening to the experts at the State Department and throughout the government, who predicted the danger of chaos and looting, the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his aides ignored their advice. Instead they relied on hope, hope that the Iraqi exiles would be accepted as legitimate, hope that the Iraqi police and military would provide security, hope that Iraqi oil revenues would finance reconstruction, and hope that we would be treated as liberators. How wrong they were -- you can't build a plan on hope.
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machiado Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:27 PM
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5. He has been uncannily correct in his predictions for how things
would unfold in Iraq.

This article he wrote for the Washington monthly is a good place to start to learn about his views on the mideast.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.clark.html
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ken-in-seattle Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:29 PM
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7. ummm the rest of the 10, had to fix the formatting.
Meanwhile, the President rejected the advice of the uniformed military that we deploy enough troops
not only to defeat Saddam's military but also to secure Iraq after Saddam's defeat. As a result, we saw chaos, we lost the trust of the Iraqi people -- and the enemy was emboldened.

4. The statements and actions of a Clark Administration will restore America's moral authority. The Bush Administration has squandered in two years the moral authority America spent generations
building. It started when President Bush said to the world, “you're either with us or against us.” As a result, even some of those who were with us are now against us. And those, like Tony Blair, who are
still with us pay a political price for it. America is hurt as well. We are less secure when our friends suffer for standing by our side. With fewer partners, we are left to meet dangers alone.
Even in Eastern Europe, there is dismay. These were some of the first countries in the world to support the Bush administration in Iraq. And what does this Administration do to its friends? In July, it suspends all U.S. military assistance to Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Slovakia, and Bulgaria because they have not yet promised Americans blanket immunity from the International Criminal Court.
One after another, American presidents have laid a foundation of moral authority for the United States. That foundation was built through our leadership in containing Communism, in promoting human
rights, in helping the poor and the sick, and in promoting international law. That foundation has been splintered in a few short years.
Also, a key part of my strategy of preventive engagement is to lead the global fight against rising tide of AIDS. Although AIDS is a preventable and treatable disease, in 2003, 5 million people worldwide were newly infected with HIV and a record 3 million people died of AIDS -- more than all the deaths from wars and terrorism in the world combined.
I have a four-part Global AIDS Security Strategy:
• Keep the U.S. commitment to combat AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria worldwide - doubling funding to $30 billion by 2008.
• Dedicate a large majority of U.S. funding to multilateral approaches like the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria, while demanding results and additional commitments
from our allies.
• Base prevention and research efforts on the best available science, including overturning the global gag rule.

My Global AIDS Security Strategy will:
• Prevent 14 million new HIV infections
• Provide care and support for 20 million HIV-infected individuals and AIDS orphans
• Provide treatment for 5 million people living with HIV/AIDS, including supporting the WHO
goal of putting 3 million people on treatment by 2005
• Accelerate the development of vaccines and cost-effective treatments to stop HIV, TB, malaria,
and other infectious diseases
5. The guiding principle of our foreign policy will be to lead, not to bully.
This Administration has been all bully and no pulpit.
Simply put, this Administration is wrecking NATO -- and thereby doing incalculable damage to our security and well being. They have alienated our friends, dismissed their concerns, rejected their advice, and left America an isolated nation. I served in NATO twice, last as Supreme Allied Commander, Europe. I know its value, see its promise, and if elected, I won't let it be destroyed. General Eisenhower once said leadership is “persuading the other fellow to want to do what you want him to do.” When America led the world for the last half century, others followed -- not because we compelled them, but because we convinced them. America needs a President who can lead. As President, that's what I will do. I will rebuild our relationships abroad and the alliances which maintain them. And I will strengthen them, so that we can solve problems together, so that the use of military force is our last resort not our first, and if America must act with force we can call on the military, financial, and moral resources of others.

6. I will never challenge the patriotism of Americans who question my policies or express their disagreement.
In a recent ad, the Republican National Committee claimed: “Some are now attacking the President for attacking the terrorists.”
The Republicans have tried to monopolize patriotism; I will not permit the Republican Party to steal patriotism.
I am not critical of President Bush because he is attacking terrorists; I’m critical of the President because he is NOT attacking terrorists.

7. In a Clark Administration, America will always have the strongest, best-trained, bestequipped military in the world.
During my 34 years of service in the United States Army, I held numerous staff and command positions – including Commander in Chief of the United States Southern Command and Director for Strategic
Plans and Policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff – rising to the rank of four-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander.
As SACUER, I led Operation Allied Force, NATO’s first major combat action, which saved 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and did not result in the loss of a single American soldier.
I know the utility of a well-prepared U.S. military, and I know what it takes to make sure that the U.S. has the best military in the world. As Commander in Chief of the United States, I will carefully examine our defense budget to ensure that we are providing our military the money and support it needs to adapt to the new challenges America faces and to have the strongest, best-trained, best-equipped military in the world.

8. America's military will be a complement, not substitute, for diplomacy, law, and leadership in the conduct of our international affairs. We must reorganize our government so that we can bring to bear the economic, diplomatic and political
tools in our arsenal. When we use the power of international law and diplomacy, we can achieve decisive results, even without decisive force. A Clark Administration would place our work with Europe and a reinvigorated NATO as a centerpiece of U.S. policy -- and then seek not to rely on preemptive force, but instead to use diplomatic, political, economic power and international law in support of preventive engagement. We would reserve the use of force for an absolutely last resort and then act together if possible and alone only if we must. The United States needs a cabinet-level or subcabinet-level agency that is charged with developing
plans, programs, and personnel structures to assist in the areas of political and economic development abroad. Call it the Department of International Development. Focusing our humanitarian and developmental efforts through a single, responsible department will help us bring the same kind of sustained attention to alleviating deprivation, misery, ethnic conflict, and poverty that we have
brought to the problem of warfare. These efforts will reduce the anger and alienation that gives rise to terrorism, and win us more friends and partners around the world. It will be far easier to gain
international support for our concerns when other countries see us helping them on theirs.

9. I pledge to use all of my experience and determination to fight the terrorists who have attacked our country, to defeat them and to work to prevent them from rising again.
I will go after terrorists wherever they are – in Afghanistan or any other country. As a result of the Bush Administration’s inadequate and misguided efforts, Osama bin Laden and many of the leaders of al
Qaeda are still at large and continue to pose a great threat to the United States, our friends and allies, and various other states. I propose the following three-pronged strategy to refocus our energies on hunting down bin Laden and destroying the al Qaeda network.
Press Saudi Arabia to join U.S. forces in creating a U.S.-Saudi commando force to work the Afghan- Pakistani border where bin Laden is thought to be hiding. It’s time for Saudi Arabia to take real action to destroy al Qaeda from the top down. It’s not enough for them to pursue terrorism within their own borders. They need to join us in the battle worldwide. Fully utilize the assets we already have on hand to hunt down bin Laden and destroy the al Qaeda
network. Too many of our intelligence specialists, linguists, and special operations personnel are investing too much time and energy in Iraq in a fruitless search for weapons of mass destruction -- a
task that could better be handled by international weapons inspectors. These inspectors are ready, willing, and able to perform this mission. This is a clear case where getting help from the international community to share the burden in Iraq will free up crucial resources to allow us to better fight the most significant threat to our homeland. Repair our relationships with our allies and friends, and rely on international and regional institutions,
like the United Nations and NATO. These institutions can provide vital support to American diplomacy, bringing in others to share the burdens and risks that we would otherwise carry alone.

10. And finally, by these pledges and with your support, as President I will make America more secure than it is today.
As President, I will ensure that we succeed in Iraq, that we focus our intelligence, diplomatic, financial, law enforcement and military resources on defeating al Qaeda, that we restore respect and support for America, and that we re-orient our foreign policy to meet the challenges of terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, international crime, and environment threats. Taken together, all of these steps will make America more secure.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:44 PM
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9. 20 of them:
Something Worth Fighting For:

1.Government Accountability  

2 People before the powerful

3. Free but Fair trade with emphasis on the rights of workers, human rights, and the
    environment.

4. A progressive and fair tax system

5. Protecting the Constitution and the Environment for ourselves and our heirs

6. An informed electorate educated by fair and honest public dialogue

7. Transparent government (checks and balances)

8. Protection of voting rights--paper verification for electronic voting.

9. A commitment to insure all Americans equal rights under the law

10. Courts peopled by those sworn to uphold the law as opposed to advancing ideologies.

11. A government that provides opportunities for its citizens to serve.International law
trumps diplomacy; diplomacy trumps force. Force only, only, only, as a  last resort.

12. A multilateral foreign policy which includes both hard power and soft power. (Clark
believes that "soft power," the building of schools etc, needs to consolidated and
administered under one dept. He also says in "Waging Modern War" that it needs to be
equal in amount to the defense budget. He sees this as very important in economic
and political intervention to stop "failed" states before they become "rogue" states.

13. People over partisanship

14. Recognition that: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism (he has been known to wear
a button with that statement on it.)  

15. Programs with a view to the future, not just the next election cycle.

16. Living our family values by promoting our citizens potential with support for public  &
college education, health care  and jobs.

17. Government promotion and encouragement of inquiry to develop alternative solutions
       for energy independence and high tech job creation

18. Recognition that diversity is our greatest strength

19. Fulfilling our commitments to America's veterans and all  men and women who serve
our country.

20. International law trumps diplomacy; diplomacy trumps force. Force only, only, only, as
a  last resort.

I wrote these down shortly after Clark left the race. Taken from his writing and speeches, I really wanted to live in Clark's vision. At DU, the accussation that somehow Clark supporters were only concerned with the military left me sad and bewildered. I'm a Kent State graduate...give me a f**king break!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:54 PM
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10. Something Clark said, that I think is important.
He said that healthcare and education need a long turn around. Yes, there are things you must do now, but ultimately, they are institutions that require time to fix. So, you can start bringing down drug costs, insure the children etc. but ultimately those fixes must become effective to take the next step. Ditto, education. He said we must take the steps necessary for today's kindergartens rather than impose some "Trojan Horse" (what he calls NCLB) onto the entire system.

Clark is a long-term planner.
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alexm Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:43 PM
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11. Families first : Most brilliant domestic policy proposal in 04.
He had a proposal for a progressive tax code that put families first. If you oppoesed it you didn't support the poorest american families.

Brilliant.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:01 PM
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12. Gene Sperling
worked that out with him...I think. Brilliant. Wes is very good at crafting the language around issues.
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