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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:16 PM
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Is History Repeating Itself? We the people can not let this continue!!
A friend Keeps reminding all his friends of this and it needs to be remembered!!! Thanks Indy.



To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refuted his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighboring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our Nation an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Where is this list from that contains many of the crimes against our principles and laws?

The full text of the Declaration of Independence drafted over 200 years ago and WE the PEOPLE SHALL NOT LET THIS CONTINUE!!!



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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:24 PM
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1. You mean 'He' as in God?
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:29 PM
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3. No this
Is from over 200 hundred years ago He refers to the King of England. This is why we freed ourselves to begin with, it appears that some people in this country have forgotten and need reminded. Bush is doing the same things that caused us to fight for our Independence to begin with.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:54 PM
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8. I'll always remember Ol' Whatsisname
the king of England at the time -- wasn't he named George?

Hm?
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:41 PM
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10. Didn't both Kings (old and new) think they were God?
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:25 PM
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2. Those who do not look back on history are bound to repeat it.
All good things must come to an end eventually. :(
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:30 PM
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4. My Favorite Subject
Was history because early on I had a history teacher who pointed this out forcefully.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:43 PM
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5. "For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent"
i thought we didn't like his tax CUTS for the wealthy. i'd be fine with some imposition of taxes on them, against their will.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:52 PM
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6. It's the deficit
The sum of money owed by the newborn chillun is around $50,000 as we speak, and getting higher by the second. They have no say in the matter, yet are truly indebted.

Ya see, it's not just today that matters, it's what happens fifty, one hundred years from now. Just as the signers of the declaration also knew.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:55 PM
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9. righto. nt
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:53 PM
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7. Of course its repeating itself
"The only thing new in this world is the history you don't know"
Harry Truman

-chef-
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:54 AM
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11. Of Course, but what do you suggest?
Its little use to tell them what they have done, they will probably be pleased that someone has noticed. They have a "mandate" now. They run the show, and in their eyes we asked them to. Anyone who is not on board is not important.

What would you do? the most important part we play is in the economy, and that is where they are vulnerable. You can complain until you're blue in the face, but as long as you keep earning and spending they don't care. And they are right - regardless of what you think, say or believe, as long as you keep earning and spending, you are a cog in their machine.

It may be inconvenient, but if you recognize the scale of the problem, BUY NOTHING. Pre-empt "the mandate". Stop fueling the machine.
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:51 AM
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12. It is a Problem
My 10 year old has taken up sowing maybe she will get good enough we wont need to buy clothing :(

I just dont think Bush Repubs get it, they are so busy looking for the politically correct version of our history they miss the BIG lessons of the past all of them.
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